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    Probably just another human sacrifice to quell the unrest. This kind of action surely quieted Kenosha. The press will show the deceased to have a significant criminal history. The shooter obviously has a clean record and was cleared by corporate. It has to be extremely expensive for the .gov and businesses to deal with this pattern of unrest. If you mess with the bottom line of a corporate oligarchy that is partners with the military industrial complex, you will surely see more of this kind of violence.
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    Stacking consequences of looking for trouble. It is one thing to be prepared for it. It is yet another to go looking for it. I have only two observations based on the limited and confusing information currently available:

    1. It's been a long, long time and another state since I've been an armed security guard, so things might have changed. But when I did work armed security Florida, we were required to carry company issued firearms, and absolutely not permitted to carry our own personal firearms. And even then, we were fairly limited in what the company could assign us. That's a pretty tactical looking setup for what I remember of private armed security.

    2. Regarding who shows up as private security. When I worked it, people fell into two broad buckets most of the time. Those for whom it was the means to an end, and those for whom it was the end. I had a lot of very strange coworkers, even for Florida, and I was fascinated someone at my company trusted some of them enough to give them a gun. So if this guy turns out to be both affiliated with a radical group and on contract for private security, this will not surprise me in the least.
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    Are those supposed to be knee pads on the blue shirt guy? They look more like neoprene braces to me.

    How ever this shakes out WRT prosecuting the shooter (or not), the Left is going to use it to push for gun control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    How ever this shakes out WRT prosecuting the shooter (or not), the Left is going to use it to push for gun control.
    That's their agenda. Nothing else matters. They'll use opportunities to advance that agenda, but it's always there.
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    Was it FN 509?

    Btw regardless of right or left, no one won fighting. One is dead and one is going to jail (possibly prison for a long time).

    This thread was right on the spot. Avoid Denver on Saturday.

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    Shooters twitter says he sold honey at the tannergun show back in 2017 with his wife.
    "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."

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    Something to remember and depress you all...

    Even if the shooter stone-cold-pulled a gun and shot his political opponent...

    Think about this. In a jury of 12 of his "peers", in that area, what's the statistical probability that 1/12 will have the opinion that "the political opponent deserved to die for thinking that way". How many DA's and attorneys are now also operating politically as well.

    In the best of circumstance here, where a DA pursues it hard, the chance of a hung jury is still quite high, and he will probably escape any major punishment beyond having to deal with the extensive court process and costs of that, which when someone throws up a "gofundme" he'll end up profiting handsomely upon.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WETWRKS View Post
    The last 5 seconds of that video were outstanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bowtie View Post
    Shooters twitter says he sold honey at the tannergun show back in 2017 with his wife.
    So what? We've already established that shooters are not some uniform hive mind, that we have shooters in our community who are Republicans, Libertarians, and out-right loons Democrats. The fact someone sold honey at a ready market tells me nothing about his/her political beliefs (other than they like making money), extremism, temperament, or willingness to use a clash like this as an excuse for what seems to be cold-blooded murder.

    If the shooter is a Leftist, I suspect the MSM and Denver DA will try to find some way to protect him from the normal legal processes. If he didn't support Biden-Harris, I expect he'd get the book thrown at him. Either way, they'll scream the whole event wouldn't have happened if "gun control".

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