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    "Beef Bacon" Commie Grant H.'s Avatar
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    Default Apparently we don't like foreigners... Lol...

    Hanging out in the hotel in Taiwan, and can only browse the board if I VPN to my house. (Corp VPN doesn't like gun stuff).

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    Thankfully my OpenVPN on a Raspberry Pi is fast and easy.

    I'm only 22 hours into my 15 day mandatory quarantine, and I am already annoyed... Can't leave the hotel room, can't hang out with co-workers, etc. All because of the "scary" virus...

    Thank goodness for delivery options. The provided food in the hotel is abysmal.
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    你好吗?


    (Nǐ hǎo ma?)

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    Damn man! Like traveling to NY.

    Keep posting on here about your experience. We'll keep you entertained I'm sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPrena View Post
    你好吗?


    (Nǐ hǎo ma?)
    Lol. Thankfully Taipei is rife with folks that speak "english", because my mandardin blows...

    Google Translate helps too.

    Quote Originally Posted by GilpinGuy View Post
    Damn man! Like traveling to NY.

    Keep posting on here about your experience. We'll keep you entertained I'm sure.
    Traveling with the scary virus thingy that's going on is annoying.

    Mandatory test in CO, no more than 72 hours before departure. United is too dumb to know how that works, so they have a 72 hour requirement set off your departure, and a 72 hour requirement set off your arrival. Took 45 minutes at DIA to get them to understand that the Taiwan .gov page was explicitly clear on this.

    DIA was noticeably empty, more so than in August when I went to AK. Mandatory mask in airport and on flights, unless you are eating/drinking. Because the virus knows when you are doing that, and doesn't cause a problem then...

    LAX was a ghost town. United Polaris lounge had a grand total of 8 people in it (our crew is 3). Grand total of ~40 people on the 13.5 hour flight to Incheon South Korea.

    Incheon was also empty. Literally 12 people from Incheon to Taipei. On a 777-200...

    United flights are hit or miss. We used to have easy flights to Taiwan. Den-SFO-TPE. Couldn't be booked for this trip. Had to use Asiana and bounce through SK.

    Only certain hotels are allowed for "quarantine" in TPE. Booking them had to be done 2 months in advance to actually get a room. Once our two weeks is up, we will move to our regular hotel, closer to the job site.

    The hotel provided food in quarantine sucks. Lunch was a shitty chicken sandwich (called a "burker, wif chicken" by the menu lady on the phone) and some cold, soggy fries. There are no microwaves in the quarantine hotels (our sister companies have had folks at the other options and we picked the best that they could recommend), so we all bought and brought plug in food warmers (canvas foil lined bag with a heater plate in the bottom).

    We had to have a local TPE number for .gov health checks, and we have to report our temps 2x daily to the hotel staff. So we all bought burner phones when we landed. Yet another hassle.

    The good news is, once we get out of quarantine, we get to largely move about the country without issue. So, all of our usual preferred and awesome food options will be available, and we can use Uber/Train/etc public transportation.

    Now we just sit on our asses and wait to see if the TW import licenses for our project gear/parts gets approved on time, so we can still come home in time for Thanksgiving. Looking at minimum 4 weeks here due to this mandatory quarantine BS.
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    I?m curious who exactly enforces your quarantine? In other words if you just up and decided you wanted to leave the hotel and go somewhere for the day what?s in place to stop you and what would be the consequences for your actions?

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    Given that it's still basically china I wouldn't fuck around and find out. It's better than mainland but it's still not a free country.

    Thread makes me miss my few weeks there before.

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    Grant - and anyone else traveling overseas,

    Due to the high level of spammer attacks the site has had through the years, we've banned hundreds (or thousands) of individual IP addresses and hundreds of subnets. Each banned subnet covers over 650k individual IP's. This is fine for our members when we're sitting someone CONUS but can cause access issues when they travel overseas. Spammers out of China like to go through other Asian countries like Vietnam, Korea - and Taiwan.

    To alleviate this, what we've done for folks in the past is ask them to send an email to the "Contact Us" address (boardadmin@ar-15.co) and let us know your member name (to help us verify it's actually you, please give us something we can use to truly know it is you!), what's going on and how long you expect to be using that IP. Using the "Contact Us" link embeds your IP address into the content of your message to us. We check that email daily (sometimes more). We'll then temporarily unblock that IP (for the duration of your trip/while you expect to use that IP), then re-block it when you've told us you're no longer using it. If you move, and need access through another IP, just follow the process again. All of this helps to reduce risk to the site and helps you, the member, to have access.

    PLEASE NOTE: We're having an issue with our "Contact Us" mailbox whereas only I can currently access the mailbox. I'll be incommunicado for a while starting Monday evening and likely won't have time to access the site at all tomorrow. If you want to use this option, act fast.

    SECOND NOTE: We also block LOTS of VPN's as they mask the location of members and are also a common tool of spammers. We verify all new members locations and VPN's don't facilitate this option. Once members are established (i.e. activated), they can use a VPN to access the site, so long as the routing doesn't take them through a banned IP, or overseas where there is a greater likelihood of encountering a blocked IP. The only site members that should ever receive a "The administrator has banned your IP address" message is those overseas, those using VPN's, and those who've done something very wrong and got themselves banned (even then, those folks KNOW they were banned and we rarely ban the member AND block their IP --it's usually just a member ban). We occasionally receive emails saying "My IP is blocked, why did you ban me" from members in good standing. We have to explain to them that they've stumbled onto a blocked IP connection and to release and renew their connection and that usually clears the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fitz19d View Post
    Given that it's still basically china I wouldn't fuck around and find out. It's better than mainland but it's still not a free country.
    Don?t get me wrong. I wasn?t suggesting any sort of act of defiance. I was legitimately curious about how these quarantines for outsiders are actually enforced.

    I changed my 2020 vacation plans due to the Covid stuff because of quarantine restrictions for travelers at the time of our trip. My wife was asking me theoretical questions about what if we stuck to our original plans and didn?t follow the fourteen day quarantine rules once we arrived.

    Obviously countries like China probably play by their own rules but in more freedom friendly places I am curious who monitors your whereabouts and what the possible penalties are for violating a rule and not really breaking any laws.

    I?m a curious creature I guess.

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    My boss has been living in Kuala Lumpur for years to run our office there, and had come back to the US for a couple weeks to work with us on some things, right before all the quarantines started way back in the long long ago... he's still here now, all these months later. But the bosses promoted him, and now he has to relocate back to the US. He is still trying to figure out how to get back to KL, do their quarantine, pack up his stuff, ship it to the US, and come back. Add in all the restrictions so he can't fly under his US passport and has to use his Aussie one, and you can tell he's tempted to just say to hell with his stuff and just let it all go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ray1970 View Post
    Don?t get me wrong. I wasn?t suggesting any sort of act of defiance. I was legitimately curious about how these quarantines for outsiders are actually enforced.

    I changed my 2020 vacation plans due to the Covid stuff because of quarantine restrictions for travelers at the time of our trip. My wife was asking me theoretical questions about what if we stuck to our original plans and didn?t follow the fourteen day quarantine rules once we arrived.

    Obviously countries like China probably play by their own rules but in more freedom friendly places I am curious who monitors your whereabouts and what the possible penalties are for violating a rule and not really breaking any laws.

    I?m a curious creature I guess.

    few ways
    1: being monitored by their health dept. Throw in any of the hotel staff. Who may or may not receive a reward, for ratting you out.

    2: and the most frequent is. Morons posting pictures of them on the web. One tourist in Hawaii was arrested for violating the quarantine, after posting pics of him wandering around the beach.
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