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    Grand Master Know It All Batteriesnare's Avatar
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    Hey all. I've been in an interesting situation for about the last two weeks, and thought I'd get opinions from you all.

    I suppose the story starts Monday the 23rd of last month. I'm not at home, my roommate is, and some sketchy looking guy comes to sell us a subscription to the Denver Post. Now, to the the best of my knowledge, the Denver post doesn't deliver in Greeley(I may be wrong). The guy makes a big deal of us being students, saying they offer a free subscription to current college students (again, never heard of such a thing) especially halfway through the school year. I live in an apartment building close to campus and there are several students in the building, so he claims to have sold several subscriptions. Needless to say this sounds to me like he's scouting to find where students live so he can break in when no one is around on vacation.

    He leaves, then the next night my neighbors' apartment (two girls) has an attempted break in. All is quiet after then as most students left for the Thanksgiving holiday, and I take all my valuables with me when I leave. I returned this past weekend, and nothing had happened since I left. This past Sunday night, the guy came back and my neighbor caught him looking into her window around 3am. The cops are called and they start patrolling the area more heavily. Then last night, he comes back twice, cops are called both times, and only goes after apartments that belong to women. Upon giving a description to the police, they identify him as a registered sex offender in our area. He was chased off the second time by the boyfriend of the girl whose apartment he was looking into, and we haven't seen him. I have female neighbors on both sides and I gave them my phone number so they can call me if he shows up again (since I'm seconds away instead of the cops) and I can make my presence known.

    So here's where I'd like to hear your opinions. Should he come back, what would be operating procedure? I told my neighbors to call me and the cops so I can diffuse any immediate threat (try to scare him off) and let the cops come and do their thing. I suppose my main concern would be, I don't think it would be legal for me to draw on him to hold him until the cops can arrive, and from his description, he's athletic and could outrun me. I carry a Surefire LED light, so I could blind him and attempt to tackle him and pin him until the cops get here, but that doesn't seem like a very smart idea either, (especially if he's armed.) Help!!
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    "Hi, I now have your pic standing at the window, and oh by the way, I'm armed. You want to stand there and wait for the cops, or do you want to run and have them pick you up later?"

    Call the cops on the way out the door, and maintain cover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SA Friday View Post
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    "Hi, I now have your pic standing at the window, and oh by the way, I'm armed. You want to stand there and wait for the cops, or do you want to run and have them pick you up later?"

    Call the cops on the way out the door, and maintain cover.

    +1 - Keep armed and make a good witness.

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    lots of good advice here, probably best to follow it rather than any ideas I might have.

    (I'd get a paintball gun and turn him orange, black and blue)

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    tag.
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    if you fear for your own life or the life or your neighbors, I would say do what you can.

    If things get serious, hold him at gunpoint, if he runs, let him run. Atleast you scared him off.

    If he threatens your life, put that gun to good use and remember these words "I feared for my life".

    Just act with integrity and honesty and everything will be fine. Don't be a vigilante, but if push comes to shove, be a man and protect the innocent.

    Remember, there was a day when there were no police to protect you.

    If you can't count on your neighbors and community, then really, what's the point?

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    If you have a few buddies that are readily availible,, You could always start a social walking club.. Exercise is suppose to be good for you. (So I've heard.) Just hold a "meeting" everytime He is seen. Now if your "route" just happens to parallel his,,Just sayin'.. No need to be confrontational or anything.. I'm sure if He has at least one brain cell, after a few times He might decide that He needs to take his activities elsewhere..
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    Seems like decent advice so far. I'll add this:

    Watch this video and see if any of the information is relevant to your situation. I'd consider getting a criminal attorney ready to respond to the scene on your behalf in the event something happens.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

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    blade at a 45 and draw down!

    are you allowed to have a gun in the place you stay?

    If you can assure it is him, hold him at gun point. at this point you know his background as a sex offender, he has made several attempts at trying to break in and possibly harm the girls and even yourself. more than likely this will happen at 3 am so you have plausible cause, he is a known threat, and your word will stand above his at all times because of his background.

    besides, if it were me, I would rather get into some trouble holding a guy at gun point then to have known the guy was around, maybe got away from me then all of a sudden I find out later he rapes some girl, maybe your neighbor, or possibly even worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    are you allowed to have a gun in the place you stay?
    Yes, the on site landlords know I have them and know I carry ect.
    "Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician." - Col. Jeff Cooper

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