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    Article VI is what they wish to use to enforce this kind of treaty.
    They need you to be uninformed about the Constitution so they can tell you it means one thing when it does not so you will follow along.
    The problem for them is Article VI is directed at states rights and is talking about states following treaties and laws made by the "United states".
    This does NOT say and is NOT giving power over the "Constituton of the United states", it is only giving power over the states laws.

    Stay vigilant fellow Patriots, know your Constitution, if you dont have a copy please pick one up and read it often.
    They will try to reinterpert it and use it against us.

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    Tom Tancrado was discussing this on his show on KOA this past Sunday afternoon. The way I understood it (as he explained it) is that if the treaty is passed, the senate would have to ratify it to enforce it here in the United States. I don't think its going to happen, but it does show Barry's intent, and if he wants my guns, he'll be traveling though a wall of lead to get them.
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    Just because the US signs a treaty, doesn't mean that it will have any effect on our laws. If it was that easy, then the 2nd Amendment would have been repealed 90 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturtle View Post
    Just because the US signs a treaty, doesn't mean that it will have any effect on our laws. If it was that easy, then the 2nd Amendment would have been repealed 90 years ago.
    I understand, but if it is passed by the Senate, wouldn't that cause it to have an effect? I'm just curious, I didn't realize a back door usurpation like this could exist.
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    That's what I'm saying, I don't think it does exist. If all it took was senate just changing some stuff around, then they would have done it a long time ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturtle View Post
    That's what I'm saying, I don't think it does exist. If all it took was senate just changing some stuff around, then they would have done it a long time ago.
    It doesn't exist. The only way it could ever is if they trick you into believing it's constitutional. (which it isn't)

    which they have done before. The hope though, is that we won't let them do it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamhunter View Post
    It doesn't exist. The only way it could ever is if they trick you into believing it's constitutional. (which it isn't)

    which they have done before. The hope though, is that we won't let them do it again.
    I know its unconstitutional, but that doesn't seem to bother this administration, which is what concerns me.
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    well trying to abolish the 2nd amendment may very well be the biggest mistake they ever make.

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    international laws will not supersede our constitution.
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    I don't think they could ever enforce such a rule.

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