How We Got Here...

[Joe_K]

Ever since COVID really kicked off in February-March 2020 I have been reading, listening, watching, and praying, just trying to make sense of all that has been going on in our Nation.

I believe that I have condensed the matter as well as I can below.

Examine the current system(s) of control and work backwards to their origins.

If you do, and come to any conclusions that differs from the official public consensus and talk about it openly, you will be ostracized or worse.

If you ask yourself the following questions, and do your own actual reading research legwork, many of the answers you find may make you uncomfortable.

How much actual Independence do you have?
To whom and what are you dependent on?
If you tried to break free from dependency, what would it cost you?
Does any part of America today look like the US Constitution lays out?

Who was better suited to provide for their own independence;
The Colonists under King George, or Americans today?

What grievances would be in your personal Declaration of Independence?

Who owns and controls the following:
The MSM? (FOX, CNN, ABC, NBC)
The New York Times?
Conservative Media? (Daily Wire, OANN, Epoch Times)
Alternative Media?
Facebook/Instagram?
Amazon?
Wikipedia?
Google/ YouTube?
Discord?
Signal?
Hollywood?
Music studios and record labels?
The Central Banking system

Who profits from:
Wars?
COVID?
The Financial System?
The Legal System?
Capitalism?
Communism?

Who funded and supported:
Communism in Russia and China?
The Wuhan lab?
Illegal and Legal immigration non profit groups?

Why has America become the worlds consumer, while China has become the globes producer?
What commonality exists between American involvement in Afghanistan, Iraq, & Libya?
Who advised every President between Woodrow Wilson to JFK?
Why has the US allowed MILLIONS of Chinese immigrants, students, and workers into the United States?

Man, it?s getting kinda warm in here.

[rondog]

[Aloha_Shooter]

You've got a number of good points but then you go spouting nonsense questions like this:

Why has the US allowed MILLIONS of Chinese immigrants, students, and workers into the United States since 1949?

You do realize that the Chinese immigrants from 1949 until Carter "unrecognized" the Republic of China and recognized the PRC as the legitimate government of China were largely refugees from Communist China or immigrants from Hong Kong and Taiwan who were stoutly pro-capitalist and anti-Communist, right? Even after Carter threw the ROC under the bus, many of the immigrants from the PRC are far more solidly capitalist than the spoiled little Karens and Kyles that grew up here without having to struggle for anything and without questioning anything they were "taught" in the indoctrination "education" system.

The most vehement socialists undermining the Constitution and American heritage/society today are homegrown Bolsheviks like AOC and Bernie Sanders. Heck, post-WWII European immigrants (interestingly, with the exception of East Europeans who actually had to live under Communism and came here to escape it) are far more likely to be socialist-leaning than most of the Chinese immigrants.

Who had it worse? The Colonists under King George, or Americans today?

Hmmm ... have the government billeting troops in your house lately? Unrecompensed and without asking?

Who owns Discord?

Really, you're going to ask about ownership of Discord -- a company that uses laissez faire in providing their services as opposed to YouTube, who censored views they didn't like and allowed false DMCA takedowns, or Twitter, who "fact checked" anything that raised uncomfortable truths about their Leftist allies? I haven't seen Discord bend over backwards to bolster the Left like Kickstarter.

Man, it is warm in here.

Maybe it wouldn't be quite so warm if you hadn't cut off all the air in your panic room.

[funkymonkey1111]

It's the Pentavarate!

[cstone]

How we got here? We should have turned left at Albuquerque.

[Rucker61]

How we got here? We should have turned left at Albuquerque.

[applause]

[Joe_K]

How we got here? We should have turned left at Albuquerque.

Gallows humor at its finest!


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[battlemidget]

[Joe_K]

You've got a number of good points but then you go spouting nonsense questions like this:



You do realize that the Chinese immigrants from 1949 until Carter "unrecognized" the Republic of China and recognized the PRC as the legitimate government of China were largely refugees from Communist China or immigrants from Hong Kong and Taiwan who were stoutly pro-capitalist and anti-Communist, right? Even after Carter threw the ROC under the bus, many of the immigrants from the PRC are far more solidly capitalist than the spoiled little Karens and Kyles that grew up here without having to struggle for anything and without questioning anything they were "taught" in the indoctrination "education" system.

The most vehement socialists undermining the Constitution and American heritage/society today are homegrown Bolsheviks like AOC and Bernie Sanders. Heck, post-WWII European immigrants (interestingly, with the exception of East Europeans who actually had to live under Communism and came here to escape it) are far more likely to be socialist-leaning than most of the Chinese immigrants.



Hmmm ... have the government billeting troops in your house lately? Unrecompensed and without asking?



Really, you're going to ask about ownership of Discord -- a company that uses laissez faire in providing their services as opposed to YouTube, who censored views they didn't like and allowed false DMCA takedowns, or Twitter, who "fact checked" anything that raised uncomfortable truths about their Leftist allies? I haven't seen Discord bend over backwards to bolster the Left like Kickstarter.



Maybe it wouldn't be quite so warm if you hadn't cut off all the air in your panic room.

I am not implying that all Chinese immigrants are suspect. But. At some point many will be. And we will be told to fear and hate them. The US Government approved the immigration of Chinese nationals, and China approved of them leaving.

If you feel that you are free-er today than Colonists in 1775, then by all means you are entitled to that opinion. That said, the Revolution did not exclusively kick off due to British troops being billeted in private homes. It did go hot over the attempted and successful seizure of powder, shot, firearms, and cannons, and increased taxes, and lack of representative government, and forcing troops to be billeted in private homes, and many, many other provocations. Many of those original provocations, and many new ones, have been perpetrated by all the various American political parties since 1789.

Discord = Disagreement between people. Yet if you ask the typical end user why the social media platform Discord is named Discord, and largely due to the woeful lack of understanding of the English language by most speakers, the end user will say it means talking and stuff. They conflate the word Discord with Discourse! It is merely another tool to harvest intelligence, and further consolidate groups.

Imagine if you started a private club and all the minutes of every meeting were freely available to people that wanted you and your fellow club members rounded up and killed. That is what Discord, Telegram, Facebook, Instagram, Signal, and every other internet based community is.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/abrambr...ion-valuation/

This article is chock full of them bending over backwards upset at alt right groups, then there?s this gem.

(Still, Discord is far from squeaky clean. It?s immensely easy to find offensive material even among the largest groups (and much more of it circulates in smaller, more private circles). For instance, one of the largest meme-based groups is called Gates of Autism. It has 212,431 members, and its profile picture is Pepe the Frog, a white nationalist emblem. A simple search in the chat history for the derogatory term ?faggot? produced results that spilled over hundreds of pages. Members widely trade memes and GIFs that are either explicitly or implicitly sexual. Asked about this content, the founders declined to comment.)

I am not panicking, nor do I have a room devoted to panic. That does not mean one should not be prepared, or seek to understand how we got here.

Do not blindly believe what you are told, especially when it is wrapped in the flag, the color of a political party, a president that pretends to be your last best hope, or told to you by someone that is on your side.


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[Irving]

Are you referring to Signal the encrypted message app, where even the company can't access the contents of your messages? That seems to be the opposite of the category in which you've placed them.