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    Cabelas ain't an old Sydney Nebraska Cabelas no mo.

    I don't know about Bass Pro, but old Cabelas loves real estates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .455_Hunter View Post
    I guess neither side of the acquisition did much market research on implications of the deal. Even the guys working a Cabela's today thought it was a bad idea.
    It's crazy that Johnny didn't consult with the guys working at a local Cabela's before this $700M deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkymonkey1111 View Post
    It's crazy that Johnny didn't consult with the guys working at a local Cabela's before this $700M deal.
    If your aquisition of brand is going to result in a hemorrage of that brand's customers, then perhaps the purchase is not such a good deal. So far, I have seen comments or spoken to about 50 people about this development, and zero are happy about it. Maybe I just interface with a certain type of person, or there are ulterior motives for the purchase to which I am unaware. If they just blindly thought filling SW with Red Head crap was going to be warmly received, I believe they are mistaken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPrena View Post
    When the market is at their highs, many companies do dumb M&A. Funniest one was Compaq-HP deal and AOL-Time Warners.
    The Compaq-HP mergers seems to have worked out well enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPrena View Post
    Funniest one was Compaq-HP deal...
    Was there, did that. Worked out well for my group (Compaq ne Digital). They canned the HP product our product was up against and merged the groups.

    ...and then we had to put up with seething hatred and non-cooperation for years from the HP employees whose product was replaced by ours.

    Management took the approach of "It'll sort itself out" and it did, like 2 to 3 years later. They could have fixed it in months if they had the fortitude to actually manage the groups.

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    Seriously, though, if SW disappeared tomorrow, would anyone miss them? More to the point, would anyone even notice?

    When SW first opened in Colorado I believe it was either mid 2000 or 2001. The reason I say that is that I had just moved to Laramie, WY to go to school in August of 2000 and I got one of their mailers/grand opening discount coupons in the mail. The only SW location nearby was the one in Loveland. Up to that time the closest thing to a "big box" sporting goods store that actually sold hunting or shooting gear was Jax (in its original FoCo location.) So SW was a "big new thing" being a big (physically very large) big-box sporting goods store that unlike Gart Bros, actually had a good supply of guns, ammo, shooting stuff, camping gear, etc (Gart was always more "urban sports": Soccer, football, running/bicycling, volleyball, etc.)

    The "big thing" about SW back then was their size ("big box" size store) and their large, in-stock selection, and of course their low prices. I'm sure the LGS's hated them and I would imagine that more than a few LGSs went out of business because of them being able to undercut the LGS on both selection and price.

    But then....BPS came along in, what, 2006 or so? Maybe 2007? And at the same time, SW expanded to include large stores in the Denver area as well (Northglenn, Aurora and SW Plaza.)

    It was also around this time, IIRC, that Gander Mountain opened its two stores in the Denver area, one in Thornton and one in Aurora in the old Home Base off of I-225 and Iliff.

    So by the time the big financial crises of 2008 - 2009 hit, shoppers in the Front Range had at least EIGHT "big box" style stores that were exclusively dedicated to sporting goods (4 x SW, 2 x GM, 1 x BPS and by this time Jax had expanded to include a big-box style store in Louisville.)

    All of a sudden, SW's one and only gimmick - large selection - was no longer exclusive to them. All they had left was cutting prices and that led them into a major reorg in 2010 - 2011 or so that saw them closing a huge percentage (I think it was over half) of their retail stores nationwide. The Aurora and SW plaza stores closed permanently.

    By the time they emerged from their reorg in 2016 or so, not one but TWO Cabelas stores had also popped up in the Metro area.

    And yet, they decided to put stores in the SW and SE part of the city again (Sheridan and Parker.)

    And what's more, they did this after Gander Mountain had decided that their big box stores weren't making enough $$ to stay open.

    You have to wonder why. I haven't been to the Parker store, but the SW in Sheridan at River Point is tiny - probably less than half the floor space of the old SW Plaza store. Selection is not good and prices are no better than the likes of BPS, Cabelas or Jax. Is there anything more useless than a "small" "big box" store? Being "big" is about the only thing they have to offer, and if they can't offer that, what good are they?

    I can understand the emotional reaction of those who remember SW when it was literally the only real "big box sporting goods store" in town that dedicated a large portion of its floor space to hunting and fishing (as opposed to more "mainstream" sports stores like Gart/Sports Authority that virtually ignored the hunting/fishing market.)

    But IMO, Sportsman's Warehouse's glory days are long behind them and all that's left is a shadow of what they once were. The one thing that made them unique is no longer unique to them, so the real question is, is there even a place for them in the current market?

    I would say no, I don't think there is because there's nothing that SW does that other big box sporting goods places don't do as well or better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinjmpr View Post
    Seriously, though, if SW disappeared tomorrow, would anyone miss them? More to the point, would anyone even notice?

    Yes- I would. I go there more the all of their competition combined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .455_Hunter View Post
    Yes- I would. I go there more the all of their competition combined.
    Is that because they are closer to you or because they offer something the others don't?
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    Quote Originally Posted by .455_Hunter View Post
    Yes- I would. I go there more the all of their competition combined.
    Quote Originally Posted by Martinjmpr View Post
    Is that because they are closer to you or because they offer something the others don't?
    Yes, a lot because they are closer. I do like the size of the store of the SW by me. If I don't have to climb a set of stairs just to check for primers, that's nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    The Compaq-HP mergers seems to have worked out well enough.
    Decades later after many diversification and playing around agilent, yes it has.

    However, carly's one of biggest failure is still seen as Compaq merger.
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