The Hate just keeps on coming

[Aloha_Shooter]

I really hate this because the uninformed and intentionally blind are making me look and sound like a Trump supporter and defender when I've detested him since the 80s.

His business was crumbling EVEN BEFORE he was a presidential candidate.
Taj fuking thing bankrupted more than once. Over leveraged properties.
Funniest part was his Taj hotel got bankrupted even during his reality TV show was running with free ad. LoL.

Suckered.

You are completely missing the fact that Trump uses bankruptcy like we might use a crescent wrench. He has had several of his businesses declare bankruptcy on multiple occasions as a way to manage cash flow and capital assets. I hate it but that's a far cry from his business crumbling. I've never understood why banks gave him loans given his track record but I suppose he made it a priority to pay them back what he owed while he screwed his general contractors and suppliers.

While Trump was president, his supporters attacked congress and bludgeoned a police officer to death with a fire extinguisher. Trump needs to go.

I don't know if you're trying to be ironic or what. This sounds like something Don Lemon or Joe Scarborough would come up with.

And chanted for the death of his VP!

Could not agree more. Recent events show he is not fit for the job.

If he had taken the job, and the needs of the country, seriously he would have easily beat Biden. Republicans won down ballot races in the same districts where he lost simply because of his repulsive and stupid behavior. They talked 'jobs over mobs' and won, but instead he gave us 'votes don't count'* and shout-outs to Q. I just hope that very important lesson isn't lost in all the noise and recrimination.

As far as the censorship goes, that sucks for now, but the blow back will be for the best. Lots of lefties know this isn't good because in short order it will be used against them. This is the event needed to justify the breakup of the tech monopolies.

Let the hate come - who cares. The last election proved there is a majority of people who recognize we are the losers of 'free trade', tired of being the worlds policeman, fed up of being hectored by the Woke, think borders matter, can't be bothered to keep updating their intersectionality chart, and just want a government that cares about their health and financial security. Find a candidate that can provide that, but without the vicious pathological narcissism, and all the hate it engenders won't matter a bit.

* Seriously, who expects to get people to vote for them when they say it doesn't count? WTF!

A lot to unpack here but the evidence is that he did take the job seriously and that he targeted actions to get to things he thought were important -- fix the increasing leftward bias of the federal courts, take steps toward securing the borders, pull out of unending involvement overseas, making our allies pay their fair share for mutual defense, etc. It's fair to say you and others don't agree with his priorities but despite my personal animas against him, I'd have to say he took it seriously.

Winning the election when the Left has spent years on tactics to control information throughout the country and to manufacture votes when and where they want them is a whole other matter. He did turn a lot of people off by the way he pursued things but a lot of the repulsion was generated by the way his acts were reported rather than what he actually said or did. We've all seen how the mass media has twisted everything he's said and done. The Left thought they'd knock him out in 2016 but didn't realize how he was using Twitter to get around the mainstream media -- they did this past year or two and have been working to effectively counter him (and now, not only silence him but cancel anyone they can claim is associated with him).

Your last paragraph just makes no sense. If anything, Trump was the one in DC who was pushing to renegotiate trade agreements, pull out of being the world's policemen, etc. but you're saying he wasn't fit for the job. That is a complete and utter non-sequitur. Like the Left, you're conflating things like his encouragement for protesting the "irregularities" in the past election with the theft, vandalism, and deaths (even though those were far less in scope than the activities incurred this past summer from "peaceful protests" supported by the liberal elite).

[MrPrena]

You are completely missing the fact that Trump uses bankruptcy like we might use a crescent wrench. He has had several of his businesses declare bankruptcy on multiple occasions as a way to manage cash flow and capital assets. I hate it but that's a far cry from his business crumbling. I've never understood why banks gave him loans given his track record but I suppose he made it a priority to pay them back what he owed while he screwed his general contractors and suppliers.

Yeah the reason bank gave him a loan is because he over valued his asset. These were well known even before he was running for pres.
Of course Cool aid drinker think that is fake news.

If I LIE to a bank that my tiny little property is $100m to secure $20m loan, I would end up in .....

[CS1983]

Yeah the reason bank gave him a loan is because he over valued his asset. These were well known even before he was running for pres.
Of course Cool aid drinker think that is fake news.

If I LIE to a bank that my tiny little property is $100m to secure $20m loan, I would end up in .....

Banks give out multi-million dollar loans without a 3rd party appraisal?

[MrPrena]

https://www.google.com/search?q=trum...&bih=612&dpr=3

[MrPrena]

Coolaid

[CS1983]

https://www.google.com/search?q=trum...&bih=612&dpr=3

That's not what I asked. Anyone can say anything they want to anyone. The question is would a bank really give out millions of dollars without any verification?

[Irving]

They sure did just before the 2008 crash.

[MrPrena]

That's not what I asked. Anyone can say anything they want to anyone. The question is would a bank really give out millions of dollars without any verification?

Some bank may some bank may not depends on their cash reserve and rate. Depends on their policies.

My original statement was over inflated asset to secure loan and posted a link.

[Martinjmpr]

That's not what I asked. Anyone can say anything they want to anyone. The question is would a bank really give out millions of dollars without any verification?

At the level we're talking about, all the regular "rules" go out the window.

There's an old saying I've always liked:

"If you owe the bank Ten Thousand dollars and can't pay, YOU have a problem.

If you owe the bank a Hundred Million Dollars and can't pay - the BANK has a problem."

[CS1983]

Some bank may some bank may not depends on their cash reserve and rate. Depends on their policies.

My original statement was over inflated asset to secure loan and posted a link.

Your original statement was:
"Yeah the reason bank gave him a loan is because he over valued his asset. These were well known even before he was running for pres.
Of course Cool aid drinker think that is fake news.

If I LIE to a bank that my tiny little property is $100m to secure $20m loan, I would end up in ....."

Did the bank give him a loan? From the article, no.

Did any bank give him a loan based on overvalued assets? Did any bank do so without 3rd party appraisal/verification?

Values are a weird thing. If we consider market value to be whatever someone will give for X product/service, then why don't we consider loanable value to be whatever a bank would give a loan for, with something as collateral?