Poison filled Hollow Points?

[rhineoshott]

Has anyone thought about putting poison in the cavity of a hollow point bullet? The thought occured to me recently. I think the only tactical advantage would be in situations like:

Combatants trying to slaughter lots of people in a single attack. You have limited ammo, so you you don't want have to shoot someone again if you didn't make a kill shot the first time.

or

Someone is trying to murder you and is chasing you through field, mountain and forrest. You manage to get a shot on him but only hit his elbow, a non lethal shot. Your life will no longer be at risk.

1. Would it be legal?

2. Would it be ethical? (depends on the length of time it takes the poison to become lethal. lets say 30min)

3. Would it work? (I've found a little info online. People supposedly put it in and then seal it with candle wax)

4. What type of poison makes a sure kill, preferably in a timely manner.


This talks about using it in airgun pellets:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/268245...e_poison_ammo/

[Irving]

I vote for not legal. Using poison isn't exactly a "Him or Me" kind of situation. At least to the courts it won't look like that. The only scenarios I can think of where this would be applicable, are in non-fiction novels I've read.

[BigBear]

1. Not legal as it would be deemed premediated murder.
2. Ethical... depends on your beliefs. For me, no.
3. Would work depending on composite used such as a paste or something "sticky".. which opens a whole other can of problems.
4. Not going to answer for legal reasons.

[Great-Kazoo]

unless you have a shock proof capsule in which to contain said item, the recoil and exit from bbl would disperse the item prior to delivery. if it was a solid unit them you would need to ensure that it was fast acting. your other issue is a hollow point starts to spread out upon contact (hopefully) depending on type of HP used and object it hit the answer is No it is not feasable.
a better bet is delivery via arrow or dart/blowgun.
setting up a round to deliver a more lethal device would possibly be considered premediated, as you were prior to force continuim contact prepared to end said life.
of course a lawyer can answer any and all questions in private, for a reasonable fee vs. putting your shit out there on the web for all to see.

if you were faced with multiple attackers and nothing was going to slow them down other than super lethal means. liquid or aerosolized delivery is the most effective means. this way it enters through any portal of entry. However the time of delivery vs, effects will vary depending on temp, distance from dispersal unit, are they wearing chemical mask etc.
myself i'd go for a HE charge

[sniper7]

not legal.

kind of pointless since you are shooting them with a bullet designed to do damage, not with a dart or arrow.

[Mtn.man]

ask the pigmies,, they use frog juice.

[Irving]

If you are using poison bullets and you accidently get a non-lethal hit on an innocent, no one is going to be happy with you when they die.


I'm curious about this premeditated angle, because it seems like you could use the same argument for using hollow points. Or even 10mm (If you're Daniel Fish).

[SA Friday]

Limited ammo?

I'm sorry, this concept is foreign to me...

[rhineoshott]

I hope I didn't give the impression that I was going to actually do this. I"M NOT!!

Somewhere I read that a few poison bullets were used in the Civil War (without permission)

If you are using poison bullets and you accidently get a non-lethal hit on an innocent, no one is going to be happy with you when they die.


I'm curious about this premeditated angle, because it seems like you could use the same argument for using hollow points. Or even 10mm (If you're Daniel Fish).

Yeah, accidents would be REALLY bad.

What about those "inferno" bullets someone posted a vid of a little while ago. Those seem like extra cruelty

[BigBear]

I'm curious about this premeditated angle, because it seems like you could use the same argument for using hollow points. Or even 10mm (If you're Daniel Fish).

Good point... the way I would see it. Bullets are designed to kill, whether hunting human or animal. Poison also kills. While it is accepted that bullets kill, the common arguement for self defense is to wound in order to cause the assailant to "cease and desist", not kill them. That's just an accepted happenstance when it happens. If one puts posion on top of a bullet might be considered overkill since it would be said you were intentionally TRYING to kill and thus premeditated? ... I don't know. Sounds good to me.