Finally.. Its Here

[OctopusHighball]

It's "for the children", which is a phrase that instantly means I'll be against it, but just pushes all the right buttons for the suburban house wife set.

[XJ]

Remember last time when they pulled the safe storage bill because of whatever bullshit reason?

[eddiememphis]

It's "for the children", which is a phrase that instantly means I'll be against it, but just pushes all the right buttons for the suburban house wife set.

Similar to "if it saves only one life, isn't it worth it?"

Depending on the cost, sometimes no, it's not worth it.

[Eric P]

I secure my gun in my house by locking the doors and windows. Why am I to blame for a criminal breaking the law to enter my home?

Will not comply. Will not buy a safe. will not use trigger locks. Fvck the Dims and their blind stupidity and nonsense laws that protect no one, discriminate against the poor by adding another financial obstacle, and endanger the inner city dwellers as they pair back police funding.

[00tec]

Ain't no juveniles in my house, nor prohibited parties.

I would kinda figure that the prohibited party deal would already be a thing, but the juvenile (without any exceptions) is BS.

[nighterfighter]

I already posted about this elsewhere on a different website, but this is just victim blaming, and the victims are legal gun owners and the offenders are the criminals who broke into my house and stole my stuff.

It's literally no different than saying a woman deserved to get raped.

[00tec]

I already posted about this elsewhere on a different website, but this is just victim blaming, and the victims are legal gun owners and the offenders are the criminals who broke into my house and stole my stuff.

It's literally no different than saying a woman deserved to get raped.

The way this is presented, it wouldn't even punish you for a breakin, unless you left your house wide open, but it is so poorly written, who knows.

It says that of a prohibited party can access your gun, you have committed a misdemeanor, however, there are no descriptions of what is required to prevent that.
If an international jewel thief, fresh out of the penitentiary can pick/drill their way into your hi-point, you have committed a misdemeanor.

I have a feeling that there's a lot of ways this can be shot down

[nighterfighter]

The way this is presented, it wouldn't even punish you for a breakin, unless you left your house, but it I so poorly written, who knows.

It says that of a prohibited party can access your gun, you have committed a misdemeanor, however, there are no descriptions of what is required to prevent that.
If an international jewel thief, fresh out of the penitentiary can pick/drill their way into your hi-point, you have committed a misdemeanor.

I have a feeling that there's a lot of ways this can be shot down

It's also a gross 4th Amendment violation and unenforceable as written. Most likely it will be a tack-on charge.

[Rucker61]

It would seem that combining a safe storage law with mandatory theft reporting would require someone whose gun was stolen to incriminate themselves for failing to store a gun safely, which would run afoul of the 5th Amendment protection against self incrimination.

[Martinjmpr]

It would seem that combining a safe storage law with mandatory theft reporting would require someone whose gun was stolen to incriminate themselves for failing to store a gun safely, which would run afoul of the 5th Amendment protection against self incrimination.

IIRC there was a court decision some decades ago that effectively said that penalties for failing to register a firearm (in a jurisdiction where firearms were required to be registered) could not be assessed against convicted felons. The gist of the ruling was that since convicted felons are prohibited from owning firearms, requiring those convicted felons to register their (illegally owned) firearms would be tantamount to requiring them to testify against themselves in violation of the 5th amendment.

So in that jurisdiction, at least, convicted felons are the only ones who CAN'T be held criminally liable for failing to register their guns.