Street race party in Aurora

[Irving]

Bandimere is not closed and will be running all next season. But the little boys with fart cans wont go as it would be embarrassing to see how fast the fart can dindnt make their car fast. When you get to the booth and the lady hands you your ET ticket and is says 20 seconds your heart drops and you realize the fart can that you think sounds so cool really didnt make your car fast.

Sounds like you've been out of the sport for a few decades.

[Irving]

Do you get upset about snowboarders at ski resorts too?

[HunterCO]

Do you get upset about snowboarders at ski resorts too?

Naah it makes me laugh when children talk!

[Irving]

I'm giving you shit for your antiquated opinions about things that aren't carb'd big blocks.

[HunterCO]

I'm giving you shit for your antiquated opinions about things that aren't carb'd big blocks.

yes I know heard it all before and still to date the fastest street cars on the planet are still big blocks. tony christenson, pat mussie yep no fart cans involved.

[DDT951]

yes I know heard it all before and still to date the fastest street cars on the planet are still big blocks. tony christenson, pat mussie yep no fart cans involved.

One of the interesting question is always "what is a street car"?

At a basic level, screwing with emission controls, changing seatbelts, non-DOT tires make them illegal to use on the street.

Any of the EPA/DOT safety/emissions equipment must remain on a street vehicle. As an example, look at the some of the early GT-series 911s. They had normal 911 seats. People bought the GT seats and installed after purchase. Why? Because the GT seats were not street use approved in the USA from crash testing.

Then, there is "street legal" which means it can kinda drive on the street (for some duration).

What was always an interesting concept was the "street king" motorcycle classes that were drag racing. Denver really didnt get them. But the rules were they had a 30 to 50 mile street course with a lead bike and a tail bike. The bikes all had to ride the "loop" and if they went in front of lead pace bike or dropped behind rear pace bike, they were DQed. They had low speed stop and go, some highway, etc. Then they arrived at drag strip. All bikes idled until they were shut down at the same time. They had to sit one minutes. Then restart (under their own power). Any bike that did not start in 30 seconds (after the 1 minute off/heat soak) was DQed.

Basically it has to really be driven on the street.

If you were at I70-Monico or Tower, you know a lot of the "street cars" were trailered in or trailered close.

And it was typical back in the day street racing. Lots of BS. Lots trash talking. Lots of lying. Cash bets. Always had to make sure that it was very clear what vehicle was racing and who was driving. The guy showing up and trying to get someone to race "my car"...well... he might have had car #1 sitting there smack talking.... car #2 was in a trailer... he wasn't saying WHICH of his cars you were racing...

Also was not always the safest place. There were guns/drugs/drugs money there. Some of those guy would have no issues shooting you for screwing with them..

[HunterCO]

One of the interesting question is always "what is a street car"?

At a basic level, screwing with emission controls, changing seatbelts, non-DOT tires make them illegal to use on the street.

Any of the EPA/DOT safety/emissions equipment must remain on a street vehicle. As an example, look at the some of the early GT-series 911s. They had normal 911 seats. People bought the GT seats and installed after purchase. Why? Because the GT seats were not street use approved in the USA from crash testing.

Then, there is "street legal" which means it can kinda drive on the street (for some duration).

What was always an interesting concept was the "street king" motorcycle classes that were drag racing. Denver really didnt get them. But the rules were they had a 30 to 50 mile street course with a lead bike and a tail bike. The bikes all had to ride the "loop" and if they went in front of lead pace bike or dropped behind rear pace bike, they were DQed. They had low speed stop and go, some highway, etc. Then they arrived at drag strip. All bikes idled until they were shut down at the same time. They had to sit one minutes. Then restart (under their own power). Any bike that did not start in 30 seconds (after the 1 minute off/heat soak) was DQed.

Basically it has to really be driven on the street.

If you were at I70-Monico or Tower, you know a lot of the "street cars" were trailered in or trailered close.

And it was typical back in the day street racing. Lots of BS. Lots trash talking. Lots of lying. Cash bets. Always had to make sure that it was very clear what vehicle was racing and who was driving. The guy showing up and trying to get someone to race "my car"...well... he might have had car #1 sitting there smack talking.... car #2 was in a trailer... he wasn't saying WHICH of his cars you were racing...

Also was not always the safest place. There were guns/drugs/drugs money there. Some of those guy would have no issues shooting you for screwing with them..

I beg to differ arguing street legal is like arguing which brand of gun or caliber is the best. Yes the EPA has their laws ect but the fact remains its not enforced or abided by. Yes there was the trailer boys as we called them they pulled that shit I never did. Hell many times I had 10 gallons of sunoco or b32 race fuel in jazz jugs in the back seat yes I know not the smartest thing I ever did. I drove my car all the way to longmont up wadsworth the back way when you have a ford 9 inch detroit locker and 4:88 gears the highway is off limits.

However I never seen any drugs or guns ever. that part is bullshit I ran it and never seen it. I always had my gun in the console but never once did I ever feel the need to pull it. I only ran Monico a few times never liked it to many side streets and then you hit I-70 over 100 mph. Tower was the best and longmont was great also but again im not saying what I did was smart it was the way it was. Claiming it was dangerous with drugs and guns is bullshit never once did I ever see that. You ran your shit put the money on the hood and payed up always somebody independent held the cash.

I agree with most of your points except the fact of the drugs and guns.

[Irving]

The one time I built an import car I took it to an exhaust shop with the very explicit instruction to just build the exhaust, with no tip of any kind. I just wanted the same size pipe after the muffler. Those dipshits down at Bud's Muffler built the exhaust as a one piece from the header to the bumper, and put a 5" tip on it. I was so pissed. It was the only exterior mod I had on the entire car (unless you count the battery shut off I installed in the back glass).

[HunterCO]

The one time I built an import car I took it to an exhaust shop with the very explicit instruction to just build the exhaust, with no tip of any kind. I just wanted the same size pipe after the muffler. Those dipshits down at Bud's Muffler built the exhaust as a one piece from the header to the bumper, and put a 5" tip on it. I was so pissed. It was the only exterior mod I had on the entire car (unless you count the battery shut off I installed in the back glass).

sorry to hear that buds muffler was family friends always took care of us never had a problem with them. But everyone has a different experience with with different shops. I know all the people in Denver from back in the day hell even mad cap (dave copriottie) bailed my ass out once when I ran the super chevy show. They put the parts I needed in a screen door so I could pick it up after hours many memories of the days. I can tell you this we never had fart cans and we ran real shit. I didnt by any means have the fastest car but in the street racing world I was in the mix. I could have sprayed it but never did fuck it was all I could do to keep it hooked up as it was.

[Irving]

Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE said that Bud's Muffler was the place to go. People had all kinds of race car exhausts built from them and they had the best reputation. I think I sent my car down there at a time when they were getting too popular and quality went way down. The O2 bung was over an inch tall of chicken shit welds like the gas was turned off. It was incredible. I was just a kid though so nothing ever came out of it. I don't think they actually got paid for that work though.