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    Quote Originally Posted by HunterCO View Post
    yes I know heard it all before and still to date the fastest street cars on the planet are still big blocks. tony christenson, pat mussie yep no fart cans involved.
    One of the interesting question is always "what is a street car"?

    At a basic level, screwing with emission controls, changing seatbelts, non-DOT tires make them illegal to use on the street.

    Any of the EPA/DOT safety/emissions equipment must remain on a street vehicle. As an example, look at the some of the early GT-series 911s. They had normal 911 seats. People bought the GT seats and installed after purchase. Why? Because the GT seats were not street use approved in the USA from crash testing.

    Then, there is "street legal" which means it can kinda drive on the street (for some duration).

    What was always an interesting concept was the "street king" motorcycle classes that were drag racing. Denver really didnt get them. But the rules were they had a 30 to 50 mile street course with a lead bike and a tail bike. The bikes all had to ride the "loop" and if they went in front of lead pace bike or dropped behind rear pace bike, they were DQed. They had low speed stop and go, some highway, etc. Then they arrived at drag strip. All bikes idled until they were shut down at the same time. They had to sit one minutes. Then restart (under their own power). Any bike that did not start in 30 seconds (after the 1 minute off/heat soak) was DQed.

    Basically it has to really be driven on the street.

    If you were at I70-Monico or Tower, you know a lot of the "street cars" were trailered in or trailered close.

    And it was typical back in the day street racing. Lots of BS. Lots trash talking. Lots of lying. Cash bets. Always had to make sure that it was very clear what vehicle was racing and who was driving. The guy showing up and trying to get someone to race "my car"...well... he might have had car #1 sitting there smack talking.... car #2 was in a trailer... he wasn't saying WHICH of his cars you were racing...

    Also was not always the safest place. There were guns/drugs/drugs money there. Some of those guy would have no issues shooting you for screwing with them..

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDT951 View Post
    One of the interesting question is always "what is a street car"?

    At a basic level, screwing with emission controls, changing seatbelts, non-DOT tires make them illegal to use on the street.

    Any of the EPA/DOT safety/emissions equipment must remain on a street vehicle. As an example, look at the some of the early GT-series 911s. They had normal 911 seats. People bought the GT seats and installed after purchase. Why? Because the GT seats were not street use approved in the USA from crash testing.

    Then, there is "street legal" which means it can kinda drive on the street (for some duration).

    What was always an interesting concept was the "street king" motorcycle classes that were drag racing. Denver really didnt get them. But the rules were they had a 30 to 50 mile street course with a lead bike and a tail bike. The bikes all had to ride the "loop" and if they went in front of lead pace bike or dropped behind rear pace bike, they were DQed. They had low speed stop and go, some highway, etc. Then they arrived at drag strip. All bikes idled until they were shut down at the same time. They had to sit one minutes. Then restart (under their own power). Any bike that did not start in 30 seconds (after the 1 minute off/heat soak) was DQed.

    Basically it has to really be driven on the street.

    If you were at I70-Monico or Tower, you know a lot of the "street cars" were trailered in or trailered close.

    And it was typical back in the day street racing. Lots of BS. Lots trash talking. Lots of lying. Cash bets. Always had to make sure that it was very clear what vehicle was racing and who was driving. The guy showing up and trying to get someone to race "my car"...well... he might have had car #1 sitting there smack talking.... car #2 was in a trailer... he wasn't saying WHICH of his cars you were racing...

    Also was not always the safest place. There were guns/drugs/drugs money there. Some of those guy would have no issues shooting you for screwing with them..
    I beg to differ arguing street legal is like arguing which brand of gun or caliber is the best. Yes the EPA has their laws ect but the fact remains its not enforced or abided by. Yes there was the trailer boys as we called them they pulled that shit I never did. Hell many times I had 10 gallons of sunoco or b32 race fuel in jazz jugs in the back seat yes I know not the smartest thing I ever did. I drove my car all the way to longmont up wadsworth the back way when you have a ford 9 inch detroit locker and 4:88 gears the highway is off limits.

    However I never seen any drugs or guns ever. that part is bullshit I ran it and never seen it. I always had my gun in the console but never once did I ever feel the need to pull it. I only ran Monico a few times never liked it to many side streets and then you hit I-70 over 100 mph. Tower was the best and longmont was great also but again im not saying what I did was smart it was the way it was. Claiming it was dangerous with drugs and guns is bullshit never once did I ever see that. You ran your shit put the money on the hood and payed up always somebody independent held the cash.

    I agree with most of your points except the fact of the drugs and guns.
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    STUPID STREET RACE








    REAL RACE


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    Having purposely missed that entire series, it is surprising to see how dumb the visual effects there are. What's his car named, the enterprise? They might as well have stars shoot by when he "engages NOS" and talk about how he damaged his tractor beam. Happy to see I didn't miss jack squat in all the movies they have made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPrena View Post
    STUPID STREET RACE








    REAL RACE

    F1 and MotoGP are no joke. They don't look all that fast racing each other but put Joe Weedend Warrior out there with them on their 'tuned' ride and you start to realize what's up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxtArt View Post
    Having purposely missed that entire series, it is surprising to see how dumb the visual effects there are. What's his car named, the enterprise? They might as well have stars shoot by when he "engages NOS" and talk about how he damaged his tractor beam. Happy to see I didn't miss jack squat in all the movies they have made.
    Amen! reality is different than the movies I will never forget one night in Longmont a kid with a small block nova wanted to race me and I said sure im game. (the kid had a badass nova built to the shit house) One of the old timers told the kid "Son that big block is about to take you to sunday school" That was reality no money was bet on that race I just ran the kid for fun. It was not all about money sometimes it was just the fun of street racing.
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    Gorgeous, and something worthwhile for making some NOISE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by arbol View Post
    Gorgeous, and something worthwhile for making some NOISE!
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    LOL yeah it makes noise alright and will lay 100 feet of rubber at 100 mph on the street. It ate fart cans for a snack.
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