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    For whatever reason, diversified machine customers are being singled out. Reading the ATF justifications just causes eye twitching, but it's the same old thing where Everything is already a Suppressor, and making a suppressor out of a suppressor is illegal.

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    There is a lot of chatter about getting all those that were denied to gather and with help of a rights organization to take ATF to court. Most places are giving advice to contact your representative........... though that depends if your Gov representative actually cares.

    It boils down to if you go through the steps to make a NFA item legally your still in trouble. "Damned if you do, damned if you don't............."


    Wonder why ATF does not apply this same logic to Form 1 SBR builds? You already have the lower and intend to put a shorter than 16" barrel on it even if you don't at this time, but it is your INTENT when you fill out the Form 1?

    There is zero logic or following of their own rules................... they create in house by the brain trust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skully View Post
    There is a lot of chatter about getting all those that were denied to gather and with help of a rights organization to take ATF to court. Most places are giving advice to contact your representative........... though that depends if your Gov representative actually cares.

    It boils down to if you go through the steps to make a NFA item legally your still in trouble. "Damned if you do, damned if you don't............."


    Wonder why ATF does not apply this same logic to Form 1 SBR builds? You already have the lower and intend to put a shorter than 16" barrel on it even if you don't at this time, but it is your INTENT when you fill out the Form 1?

    There is zero logic or following of their own rules................... they create in house by the brain trust.
    I half suspect the SBR and SBS is next on this. You are in possession of parts to make an SBR by being in possession of an AR lower...type of garbage.
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    I’m sure an intrepid attorney and a few smart asses could use this against them. Per example, I agree with the ATF let’s surrender anything that we intend to make into a suppressor. I have this old broke down Plymouth Reliant K car that I intend to make a surpressor. I should go drop it off at the ATF office. At least until I get an approved form 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WETWRKS View Post
    I half suspect the SBR and SBS is next on this. You are in possession of parts to make an SBR by being in possession of an AR lower...type of garbage.
    Outside of the F1 issues. IMO they opened efile to F4's to go after braces and "triggers"
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