And it starts, NO shot, no entry

[clodhopper]

Sure, it?s just one small business. What if a larger company took a similar stance? Or several larger companies. Let?s say United airlines, Delta airlines, Southwest, and pretty much every airline decided that in order to fly in their airlines you needed to show them some sort of medical records?

Many of the bigger businesses like airlines are regulated, so unlikely. But even if they did, let them suffer the consequences. I am assuming a covid card here. Any requirement to have access to your medical records would immediately end up in court, so pretty unlikely.

[Scanker19]

I support business owners being able to define their own terms as to who can patronize them so long as it isn't "white people only/black people only". It isn't a government mandate so I'm a bit confused as to what the outrage is. The owner applies his own reasons to his own decisions and doesn't seem to advocate it for other businesses... meh. Businesses should be able to have a dress code if they want too. At the end of the day, it's their property and their wallet affected if they apply dumb decisions to their own operations, but nothing requires us to patronize them nor is their any lack of options or other places to go to.

Now if a town mandated it, that's a different story.

I normally fall under this thought as well, but where does it stop? Just race? Is it you can?t discriminate against things you can?t change? Height? Or can I exclude religions too. No fat people?
Imagine a place that said if you have AIDS you can?t be in here, out of fear of transmission? Where does ADA end and civil right begin? The argument I?ve heard with people with mask exceptions from a doctor is that the private buis ness can say you still can?t come in without a mask. Okay that?s great, can they also say, ?sorry wheels, no ramp for you, stairs only here, private business and such??

It?s a slippery slope of what a ?private business? that?s open to the public can restrict.

[ray1970]

Many of the bigger businesses like airlines are regulated, so unlikely. But even if they did, let them suffer the consequences. I am assuming a covid card here. Any requirement to have access to your medical records would immediately end up in court, so pretty unlikely.

Airlines might have been a bad example due to government overwatch and regulations.

And you wouldn't consider a "covid card" a medical record?

[FoxtArt]

I normally fall under this thought as well, but where does it stop? Just race? Is it you can?t discriminate against things you can?t change? Height? Or can I exclude religions too. No fat people?
Imagine a place that said if you have AIDS you can?t be in here, out of fear of transmission? Where does ADA end and civil right begin? The argument I?ve heard with people with mask exceptions from a doctor is that the private buis ness can say you still can?t come in without a mask. Okay that?s great, can they also say, ?sorry wheels, no ramp for you, stairs only here, private business and such??

It?s a slippery slope of what a ?private business? that?s open to the public can restrict.

I mean ADA already protects the handicap access, but I don't think it is a slippery slope, in fact I would argue the reverse being a slippery slope. By way of example:

If you can't discriminate against height...

We're going to have to shut down 1/2 of amusment park rides permanently for safety.

If you can't discriminate against fat people....

Airlines are going to have a fun time hiring the 400 pound woman as a flight attendant to fulfill their affirmative fatction quota.

If you can't discriminate against medical conditions...

I challenge you to board the airplane piloted by the guy with full-blown AIDS and a cardiac condition.

Someone better sue playboy for not posting a 550 lbs 75 year old man on the cover too. That's AGE, SEX and WEIGHT discrimination.

Another good example for the parents here:

Do you look at babysitters as all being equal? Are you just as likely to hire the 45 year old single mustached man as the 25 year old college girl to babysit your little girls?


It's easy to be an idealist and say that people SHOULDNT discriminate, but we in fact agree with a good portion of discrimination in our lives, and it will be a hot mess of garbage if we ever get to the point where you can't make your own business choices.

[clodhopper]

Much of the discrimination in private business has to do with available options. If every similar business around denies the same people, that would be discrimination. Jim Crow kind of thing. But a single business putting in place unique limitations when there is a raft of other similar private businesses that can serve that person, no discrimination.

And yes, there is judgement involved in that. Too many people seem to forget to bring their rational judgement with them when they venture into the world.

As aggravated as I am about sjw's attempting to use govt to enforce blanket fairness, doing it in reverse is just as wrong. This particular bar owner doesnt deserve to fight lawsuits just cause others with similar ideas are fukwads. Wouldn't it make more sense to celebrate and encourage diversity of ideas and business plans and really drive the inclusion of all concept right up the progressive nose and dare them to nazi it in response. Bait em with their own slippery crap, the very tactic they use on conservatives.

[MrPrena]

Discrimination against:

-people who cannot afford a health insurance and the cost of vaccine.
-people who are allergic to PFE, MRNA, JNJ, AZN vaccine(s).
-people who are anti-vaxxer

[XJ]

FoxfArt I admire your moxie, but fear that you are woefully naive

[exxonv]

Someone already said it best, it's a vaccine - this is all the typical hyperbole that occurs, and nobody has to pass an IQ test to own a bar, or apparently to run the country . The challenge is that power hungry people like Polis love telling others what to do. I still have his video where he talks about the "grime reaper being the final authority". What a leader huh?

Add social media, a liberal and un-free press, bombardment from schools, churches (yes), corporations, etc. to mask up, accept liberal views as fact, refer to people by pronouns, and now believing that you're "in" or "out" based off a couple shots? Crazy train.... I'd say this will sort itself out, but the level of stupid is reaching all-time heights (at least to me).

With all this data/information, people just seem dumber and dumber. Nobody wants to challenge and critical thought makes you a racist, a homophobe, a zealous nut, an extremist, or too religious.

But discrimination? That's tough to prove - why, because it's common place now... Wear a MAGA hat and you are not facing discrimination, you are evil. Have views that are not mainstream and get ostracized for them? You're not progressive or you lack vision, but it's accepted.

Of course, the side benefit of the He/Him/Dude and the She/Her/Chick can be somewhat helpful in letting you know that you don't' really know what people really are anymore, so be careful where you park your johnson...

[Great-Kazoo]

Airlines might have been a bad example due to government overwatch and regulations.

And you wouldn't consider a "covid card" a medical record?

Not really

https://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...rd/4839979001/

"There's no vaccine passport in the United States," says Peter Vlitas, senior vice president of airline relations for Internova Travel Group. But we're close. The most promising one is the IATA Travel Pass. It's being tested among 22 airlines, and the airline trade organization expects to release it this month. It will be limited to air travel and border crossings.

[MrPrena]

Turd Herd immunity is almost there.