And it starts, NO shot, no entry

[Bailey Guns]

While that’s possible, it’s much less likely than we initially thought. A recent study shows:

“ Under real-world conditions, mRNA vaccine effectiveness of full immunization (≥14 days after second dose) was 90% against SARS-CoV-2 infections regardless of symptom status; vaccine effectiveness of partial immunization (≥14 days after first dose but before second dose) was 80%.” (Source below)

Not only is it showing to be phenomenal at preventing infection (and therefore transmission), it seems that the 10% of fully immunized folks who could get infected are quite unlikely to transmit it to others, since their immune response squashes the virus before it replicates to levels needed to transmit. (I’ve heard this from a few Infectious Disease docs, but can’t point to a written source, FWIW)

Good news, but it is still too new to know if I’ll have a tail sometime in the future...

Source:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/...cid=mm7013e3_w

This is the sort of stuff that convinced me to get vaccinated. I'm not convinced it's 100% safe. I'm also not convinced it's going to alter my DNA and cause me to grow a second head or some other terrible thing. I'm also not going to be passing my DNA on at this stage of my life, altered or not.

I looked at both sides of the argument and decided it was appropriate for me. I don't advocate it for everyone. I understand the concerns. One isn't an idiot if they get the vaccine just like they're not an idiot if they decide it's not for them. It's a personal choice. I was at a Tractor Supply store listening to some loudmouth standing outside just railing about how stupid people were for taking the vaccine. I was waiting for about 5 mins for a gun safe to be brought around and loaded in my truck. During that time Mr Loudmouth smoked AT LEAST 3 cigarettes and was drinking one of those drum-sized sodas. But I'm an idiot for getting the vaccine.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Have there been ANY instances of a Covid outbreak from a flight? The pilots don't even wear face masks, and everyone takes off their masks to eat, which means that it doesn't matter for the rest of the flight either.

Yes, there have been. There was a well-documented case last summer where a COVID-positive individual flying in first/business class appeared to have infected over half a dozen of the passengers around him/her. It was discussed ad nauseum on FlyerTalk, resulting in many of the frequent flyers deciding they actually would prefer flying in Economy Plus where seating was sparse than in the front which was nearly always full because any passenger with any kind of status could get an upgrade.

Big difference between the cockpit -- its own enclosed airspace -- with another pilot who you trust is also observing safety protocols versus being in a packed passenger cabin, despite the airline rhetoric about how much they refresh the air in flight (and guess what, they AREN'T moving the air that much while the airplane is sitting on the tarmac during boarding/deboarding.

[exxonv]

Another source of "truth" out there in media land. I'm betting they could up the rate if they gave out a case of 9mm with each shot 😀.

https://www.newsmax.com/us/Poll-Covi...14/id/1017619/

[FoxtArt]

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/heal...lynn-1.4534328

It is stuff like this that is unfathomable stupidity in reporting to me. Note this is not directed at you, GK, just the reporting.

Imagine if they ran a news article in the middle of April that said "Flu deaths are the lowest since the November!!!" ... Golly who can predict they will be lower still next month, and lowest in July! But oh no, there will be an unexpected wave come late October.

*bashes head on wall*

[funkymonkey1111]

https://kdvr.com/news/coronavirus/co...fall-semester/

No shot, no higher education

[Great-Kazoo]

https://kdvr.com/news/coronavirus/co...fall-semester/

No shot, no higher education

OR access to senior living, post op rehab.


What's interesting is my heart surgeons , when i told them i was suppose to get the shot from the va. Said, DO NOT get the vaccine, before my surgery, or for anytime down the road. .

[hollohas]

No shot no higher ed? Meh. When Biden makes higher ed free, it'll be worthless anyway.

[MAP]

OR access to senior living, post op rehab.


What's interesting is my heart surgeons , when i told them i was suppose to get the shot from the va. Said, DO NOT get the vaccine, before my surgery, or for anytime down the road. .

My sister has a pace maker. Her cardiologist said the covid vaccine is too risky.

[Great-Kazoo]

My sister has a pace maker. Her cardiologist said the covid vaccine is too risky.

So did my cardiologist and thoracic surgeon. I'm scheduled for the vaccine before surgery. DO NOT GET THE VACCINE! Oddly enough there's a lot in the medical profession who have decided to opt out.
I suspect some legal push back since it's not a law one must be vaccinated, yet.

[exxonv]

So did my cardiologist and thoracic surgeon. I'm scheduled for the vaccine before surgery. DO NOT GET THE VACCINE! Oddly enough there's a lot in the medical profession who have decided to opt out.
I suspect some legal push back since it's not a law one must be vaccinated, yet.

Wow, so there must be some concern about impact to the heart - makes one wonder what's really in that vaccine. Is that standard practice (to avoid vaccine's prior to anything heart procedure related)? I know I had plenty of strange vaccinations when I was active duty, even one in the first Gulf War that was "experimental" and could give me VA benefits (I've not researched that yet).

Good Luck Sir!