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    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    Well at least he took the self abortion option, sadly too late though.
    Should have put himself first on his hit list.
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    My sister has a doctorate in psychology but she specialized in neuropsychology so heavy on scientific method and a lot of biology. I attended her graduation so met a lot of her classmates. IMO, the clinical psychologists in her graduating class had many more "issues" per capita than the general population. Many many more.

    I suspect a lot of people go into clinical looking for answers to their own problems and they project their problems a lot. Probably the last group of people I would go to for counseling if I never needed any. I've had a couple friends benefit greatly from psychiatry but that requires an MD as well as psychology.

    BTW, I also skimmed through some of their papers while I was up there. Some of the poorest trash I've read in any academic setting. I don't think a single one of them proposed much less demonstrated causal effects. Many (most?) made the classic mistake of relying on statistical correlation to "prove" their hypothesis with no supporting evidence other than correlation.

    Make no mistake, the mental health industry is an industry and like any other industry there are some good people in it but there are a lot of other people looking for the quickest easiest buck. Like any other industry, a flood of government or "other peoples" money will cause it to explode.

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    Amen to that. It's also not just self-psychiatry, but there are also some that get into that right out of school to e.g. "fix my dad", something I've even heard one admit, or in other cases I am sure, "boyfriend", or whatever. I bet it is a tiny minority that go into it for the right reasons, without baggage upon baggage. Luckily, that one switched her major to business after she realized how moronic her young assertions were.

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    I also think mental health is possibly the most antiquated of all the medical professions. So much of it is based on very old assumptions and the way it categorizes it defies science and logic. Even the DSM itself, broadly categorizes problems in a way that would be akin to calling any kind of a injury to the extremity of your leg "LEG OWIE" and treating them all exactly the same. Amputation? LEG OWIE. Deep vein thrombosis? Nope, LEG OWIE. Toe fungus? Nope, LEG OWIE.

    By way of example, schizophrenia has been determined in studies to be no less than six, maybe even nine different "illnesses". But nope, despite the studies, it's all "schizophrenia" and all treated the same, take your fucking pill. It is amazingly stupid to categorize mental illness in the way we do. Rather than DSM categories, it potentially should be broken up into subclasses: E.G.: Structural, genetic, habitual, chemical, neurotransmitter problems or whatever. And treatment customized to the unique landscape. Rather than "Schizophrenic, take your pill" it should be "Prefrontal cortex deficiency, intercranial cyst in visual cortex resulting in hallucinations, genetic predisposition to personality disorders, obsessive habitual coping strategy complicated by a caffeine allergies and a cooccurring dopamine imbalance resulting in xxxx...." [total bullshit here, but just an example of how they SHOULD be digging into it imho]

    ETA: If anyone reads too far into this, neither myself nor anyone I've ever known is schizophrenic. I often read studies while taking a crap. It is only an example, not personal experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxtArt View Post
    I also think mental health is possibly the most antiquated of all the medical professions. So much of it is based on very old assumptions and the way it categorizes it defies science and logic. Even the DSM itself, broadly categorizes problems in a way that would be akin to calling any kind of a injury to the extremity of your leg "LEG OWIE" and treating them all exactly the same. Amputation? LEG OWIE. Deep vein thrombosis? Nope, LEG OWIE. Toe fungus? Nope, LEG OWIE.

    By way of example, schizophrenia has been determined in studies to be no less than six, maybe even nine different "illnesses". But nope, despite the studies, it's all "schizophrenia" and all treated the same, take your fucking pill. It is amazingly stupid to categorize mental illness in the way we do. Rather than DSM categories, it potentially should be broken up into subclasses: E.G.: Structural, genetic, habitual, chemical, neurotransmitter problems or whatever. And treatment customized to the unique landscape. Rather than "Schizophrenic, take your pill" it should be "Prefrontal cortex deficiency, intercranial cyst in visual cortex resulting in hallucinations, genetic predisposition to personality disorders, obsessive habitual coping strategy complicated by a caffeine allergies and a cooccurring dopamine imbalance resulting in xxxx...." [total bullshit here, but just an example of how they SHOULD be digging into it imho]

    ETA: If anyone reads too far into this, neither myself nor anyone I've ever known is schizophrenic. I often read studies while taking a crap. It is only an example, not personal experience.
    Dealing with mental illness on a regular basis is nothing like the students in psychiatry understand. I've met many good psychiatrists. I've also met countless bad ones. One major issue is the constant self diagnosis. A person will say they are bipoloar, schizophrenic, or tell me their child has Autism or ADHD but there is no diagnosis from a physician and no prescribed medications and no regular visits to mental healthcare. When people diagnose themselves, they often get categorized into the numbers statistics. In my experience, it is mostly an excuse to get away with doing something wrong.

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    A good friend of mine from high school’s mom is a fairly prominent psychologist. She explained it quite well to me a long time ago:

    Everybody is crazy.







    It’s just their state of adjustment on any given day that is of question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    A good friend of mine from high school’s mom is a fairly prominent psychologist. She explained it quite well to me a long time ago:

    Everybody is crazy.







    It’s just their state of adjustment on any given day that is of question.

    Everybody is crazy.


    Sounds like the standard saying of convicts. I'm only here, because my lawyer fucked me.
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    More news...

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/indianapo...d-flag-hearing

    Authorities believed they had done what they needed to by seizing the pump-action shotgun from Brandon Scott Hole in March 2020, Marion County Prosecutor Ryan Mears said.

    "Absolutely there needs to be some intervention and absolutely the firearm needs to be taken away. ... But the risk is if we move forward with that (red flag) process and lose, we have to give that firearm back to that person," Mears said. "That’s not something we were willing to do."



    So authorities didn't want to have to prove their case, he was out a shotgun, but could buy a new one since they didn't want to have the possibility of losing a case?

    I guess we know how the government works.

    "We cannot prove you did it, so just accept the initial action and we will be all good"

    Think about what they are saying.... really think about it.

    "We will seize what we want, but wont go any further so we wont lose"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    Everybody is crazy.


    Sounds like the standard saying of convicts. I'm only here, because my lawyer fucked me.
    Was she hot?

    (sorry for being exclusive but I am assuming she)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDT951 View Post
    Was she hot?

    (sorry for being exclusive but I am assuming she)
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