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    a cool, fancy title hollohas's Avatar
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    Default ATF proposal for "ghost guns"

    ATF wants everyone to serialize everything, even existing homemade firearms.

    Here are the details....

    https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regula...ceiver/summary

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    I can see how it could be used to declare uppers to require FFL transfers and serialization by mere future edict on top of all the other issues with this.

    Fun times.

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    Mine are all gonna be serial numbered #1.
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    There you go. I don't see where it requires more digits....

    "Mark PMFs with the same serial number on each frame or receiver of a weapon that begins with the FFL?s abbreviated license number (first three and last five digits) as a prefix followed by a hyphen on any ?privately made firearm? (as defined) that the licensee acquired (e.g., ?12345678-[number]?)."

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    between 3d printers and home machine shops , sure . Who's grandfathered, or not, is this retro active, or when they arbitrarily issue the edict??
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    How it reads, they don't intend to grandfather anything. All will need to be serialized in 60 days from when the rule become final.

    "Properly mark each PMF acquired before the effective date of the rule within 60 days after the rule becomes final"
    Last edited by hollohas; 05-07-2021 at 19:46.

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    Fvck. Dumbo brown is quoted in this article.

    Consider the proposal final now that this asshat is being quoted as a creditable source.

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    The responsibility to engrave and log serial numbers is on the FFLs. How many are going to be willing to do that? Probably very few...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    The responsibility to engrave and log serial numbers is on the FFLs. How many are going to be willing to do that? Probably very few...
    I foresee the new regulation allowing the maximum price FFLs are allowed to charge per firearm being $40, although in practice, they will charge $150 while calling it something different.
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