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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post
    I totally understand that line of reasoning about not engaging. The reality might be a little harder. I know undercover cops get shot by uniformed officers. But in this day of CCW, at least for now, Cops have to realize that these are complex situations. Someone without a uniform but with a gun May not necessarily be a bad guy.
    No...armed citizens, and the public in general, have to realize these are complex situations. The police are tasked with dealing with this sort of problem. It's their job. Armed citizens are not. If you're getting a permit because you think you're going to "assist" the police and stop crime, you need to rethink your motives.

    And I'm all for people carrying guns. I just want them to put their brain in gear before putting their gun in gear.
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    No, there are no such requirements at all. And "assisting police" is an effective way to get killed by the police or another "assistant".
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    The media coverage on this is interesting.

    KMGH has the update about Hurley shooting the perp as their lead story.

    No mention of him engaging the perp with a weapon on the other news sites, unless I am missing something.
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    No picture of the perp yet. Odd.

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    This guy did what he thought was right. From the stories being circulated by people who say they were his friends, he knew the risks. He still decided to do what he did. Everyone knows that if you get in a shootout, you may get shot. That's just a fact we all live with. LEOs aren't the only folks allowed to take that risk. It's not exclusive to them. I will never criticize ANYONE who steps up and stops a bad guy, badge or not.

    Cops may say they don't want citizens to help, but that opinion changes immediately when they need help. There isn't always uniformed backup nearby. Every LEO I know finds comfort in knowing there are still good people out there that have their backs.

    This is what it is now. At least right now it sounds like the citizen stopped the bad guy. (There aren't any reports of shots being fired after he engaged). That's a good thing no matter what he "should have done". Good for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    This guy did what he thought was right. From the stories being circulated by people who say they were his friends, he knew the risks. He still decided to do what he did. Everyone knows that if you get in a shootout, you may get shot. That's just a fact we all live with. LEOs aren't the only folks allowed to take that risk. It's not exclusive to them. I will never criticize ANYONE who steps up and stops a bad guy, badge or not.

    Cops may say they don't want citizens to help, but that opinion changes immediately when they need help. There isn't always uniformed backup nearby. Every LEO I know finds comfort in knowing there are still good people out there that have their backs.

    This is what it is now. At least right now it sounds like the citizen stopped the bad guy. (There aren't any reports of shots being fired after he engaged). That's a good thing no matter what he "should have done". Good for him.
    I'm not arguing that. But now his family is left with dealing with the consequences of his choices. It's an unfortunate reality. And the officer(s) that fired the shots that killed him are left with dealing with what they've done. His decisions impacted a lot more people than just him. Unintended consequences... I'm mostly bringing these things up as food for thought for those who haven't thought these kinds of things through completely.
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    My bet is that Hurley was shot by responding officers. Otherwise, why the blanket of silence?
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    There is NO duty to assist a peace officer unless commanded to. Failure to comply when commanded is a petty offense.
    In retrospect, if Mr. Hurley could have borrowed some appropriate level body armor from the surplus store, it might have made a difference. All innocent parties involved have my sympathies.


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