WTF has become of America?

[BushMasterBoy]

Shock treatments on a tie down board for people with autism and the court says it is OK? I see it as just one step below a NAZI eugenics program. They should try it on a judge of the court!

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-ju...ticles&via=rss

[beast556]

That is torture, plane and simple.

[Irving]

The courts said that the FDA doesn't have the authority to ban the use.

[Great-Kazoo]

The courts said that the FDA doesn't have the authority to ban the use.

So social services, that will remove a kid because a parent says something. To tilt a divorce their way is ok. But they'll sit on their hands with this?


Then again the FDA is silently cheering the Children's Hospital decision to team up with pfizer to give kids. A not at risk group, vaccines. Where the benefits, outweigh the risk. Till 10-20 yrs from now when who know what the side effects, if any, might be.


Somethings wrong. When what use to be considered abuse, or a threat to the child's welfare. Is now acceptable.



Is there a need for this type of therapy in "some cases" perhaps. However to subject kids to this, based on the story. For up to 24 hrs time frames is not acceptable.

[MrPrena]

slight off topic

Ferdinand Porsche was a dedicated nazi.
Bmw made planes for nazi.
Daimler made vehicles for nazi.

Bayer IG Faben was working with Nazis.
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/bayer

Merck kgaa, Aventis, basf, Mauser, hk ( as engineers).
etc.


now the Mitsubishi, Toyota, Honda also .................

[Great-Kazoo]

slight off topic

Ferdinand Porsche was a dedicated nazi.
Bmw made planes for nazi.
Daimler made vehicles for nazi.

Bayer IG Faben was working with Nazis.
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/bayer

Merck kgaa, Aventis, basf, Mauser, hk ( as engineers).
etc.


now the Mitsubishi, Toyota, Honda also .................

Mitsubishi bombed Pearl Harbor


The same scientist and their medical experiments, we not only put on trial, but also executed after WW II . Have been embraced by the medical community world wide. Does that make it morally right?

[BPTactical]

Thats OK, just add this little jewel to the mix

https://vidmax.com/video/205600-the-...-your-children



Lyrics:
YOU THINK WE'RE SINFUL,
YOU FIGHT AGAINST OUR RIGHTS,
YOU SAY WE ALL LEAD LIVE YOU CAN'T RESPECT.
BUT YOU'RE JUST FRIGHTENED,
YOU THINK THAT WE'LL CORRUPT YOUR KIDS
IF OUR AGENDA GOES UNCHECKED.
FUNNY, JUST THIS ONCE, YOU'RE CORRECT.

WE'LL CONVERT YOUR CHILDREN,
HAPPENS BIT BY BIT,
QUIETLY AND SUBTLELY
AND YOU WILL BARELY NOTICE IT,
YOU CAN KEEP THEM FROM DISCO,
WARN ABOUT SAN FRANCISCO.
MAKE 'EM WEAR PLEATED PANTS,
WE DON'T CARE...
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JUST LIKE YOU WORRIED,
THEY'LL CHANGE THEIR GROUP OF FRIENDS,
YOU WON'T APPROVE OF WHERE THEY GO AT NIGHT
(TO PROTESTS)
OH, AND YOU'LL BE DISGUSTED
(SO GROSS)
WHEN THEY START FINDING THINGS ONLINE
THAT YOU'VE KEPT FAR FROM THEIR SIGHT
(LIKE INFORMATION...)
GUESS WHAT?
YOU'LL STILL BE ALRIGHT!

WE'LL CONVERT YOUR CHILDREN,
REACHING ONE AND ALL.
THERE'S REALLY NO ESCAPING IT
'CAUSE EVEN GRANDMA LIKES RUPAUL.
AND THE WORLD'S GETTING KINDER.
GEN Z'S GAYER THAN GRINDR.
LEARN TO LOVE,
LEARN TO VOGUE,
FACE YOUR FATE!
WE'LL CONVERT YOUR CHILDREN,
SOMEONE'S GOTTA TEACH THEM NOT TO HATE.

WE'RE COMING FOR THEM
WE'RE COMING FOR YOUR CHILDREN
WE'RE COMING FOR THEM
WE'RE COMING FOR THEM
WE'RE COMING FOR YOUR CHILDREN
FOR YOUR CHILDREN

YOU'RE CHILDREN WILL CARE ABOUT
FAIRNESS AND JUSTICE FOR OTHERS
YOUR CHILDREN WILL WORK TO CONVERT
ALL THEIR SISTERS AND BROTHERS
THEN, SOON, WE'RE ALMOST CERTAIN,
YOU'RE KIDS WILL START CONVERTIN' YOU!

THE GAY AGENDA IS COMING HOME
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BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY
'CAUSE THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH
STANDING BY OUR SIDE
GET ON BOARD IN A HURRY
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A BIT MORE PRIDE

BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY
'CAUSE THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH
STANDING BY OUR SIDE
(THE GAY AGENDA)
GET ON BOARD IN A HURRY
BECAUSE THE WORLD ALWAYS NEEDS
A BIT MORE PRIDE
(THE GAY AGENDA)

COME ON, TRY A LITTLE PRIDE!

WE'LL CONVERT YOUR CHILDREN,
THEN WE'LL TURN TO YOU,
GIVING UP THE FEAR INSIDE
IS FREEING LIKE YOU NEVER KNEW!

GO AND SEE SAN FRANCISCO!
GO AND TURN UP THAT DISCO!
YOU'LL FORGET YOU WERE EVER UPSET.
WE'LL CONVERT YOUR CHILDREN,
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[theGinsue]

That is torture, plane and simple.

So social services, that will remove a kid because a parent says something. To tilt a divorce their way is ok. But they'll sit on their hands with this?


Then again the FDA is silently cheering the Children's Hospital decision to team up with pfizer to give kids. A not at risk group, vaccines. Where the benefits, outweigh the risk. Till 10-20 yrs from now when who know what the side effects, if any, might be.


Somethings wrong. When what use to be considered abuse, or a threat to the child's welfare. Is now acceptable.



Is there a need for this type of therapy in "some cases" perhaps. However to subject kids to this, based on the story. For up to 24 hrs time frames is not acceptable.

In full agreement with both of these statements. Electro shock "therapy" is one of the worst forms of torture possible and no court in the world would allow what I watched in that video from being used against enemy combatants in a military war scenario - but OUR courts are allowing its use on OUR children?

Just about every school district in the nation has also banned paddling of students (I got paddled by my schools in elementary and in Jr. High). Paddling was deemed ineffective (it was in my case) and "abusive". As Jim stated, Social Services can/will/do remove children from their parents for much MUCH less (and even charge the parents with crimes) - yet we allow it to be used by a school?

I'm disgusted.

[earplug]

Water boarding and extradition was considered fine.

[Duman]

Electro-shock therapy has it's place in treating SOME patients with extreme depression or other mental disorders. It's effective for some patients, not all, and no one knows why.

Autism, to the best of my knowledge, doesn't fall into the category treatable by shock therapy.

Per the article:
The school’s parents’ association also issued a statement lauding Tuesday’s ruling. “We are grateful for the careful deliberation and the decision reached by the court and these judges,” they said. “We have and will continue to fight to keep our loved ones safe and alive and to retain access to this life saving treatment of last resort.”

The parents said they favored electric shocks over physical restraints or medication.

“There is no other treatment for our loved ones, and we will not stand by as they are mechanically or chemically restrained,” they said.

These people need to be held accountable. The parents, too.