The New Wave of Double Stack Micro Compacts

[arbol]

If all the specs, weight, size, etc. are in line, I'm really happy to see a new generation of concealed carry.

If it's all the same as I currently carry, not so much.

Looking forward to reviewing this.

[Doc45]

I recently picked up a pre-owned unfired Shield Plus just because the slight difference in the grip fits me so much better than the original Shield or the Sig 365 XL I had. I added the HD night sights. I love revolvers and will now and then carry my 3" S&W 64 NY-1 too, never did really like J frames. I colder times with a jacket or similar covering garment it's a 1911. The Plus conceals excellently for me with just a loose t-shirt or untucked button up shirt.

[Zundfolge]

I'm still waiting on a .40 version of the P365.

[Frac]

No plans to move on from my P365.

[.455_Hunter]

To each his own, not a bad option, I just feel there are better options in 2021...

Think wheel guns went out of vogue a while ago for defensive shooting choices. But they have their place.

Based on my own experiences during 30 years of defensive carry and personal risk assessments, I have two primary concerns with the latest carry guns:

- I refuse to be armed with a weapon that doesn't have either a full-stroke, full-weight DA trigger, or a positive manual safety (stiff with strong detents). Carrying a gun with a "great trigger" that has an enhanced potential for AD/ND is a NO-GO, regardless of training or other equipment crutches. The higher capacity guns combined with the P290RS, Rohrbaugh or 3914DAO action would be interesting, but unavailable due to striker fetishism.

- I also like the positive nature of a recessed heel magazine release or a paddle system. The chance of inadvertently activating a standard or extended mag side release far excced needing a John Wick fantasy-grade reload.

A high-capacity, sub-compact combo of the above doesn't seem to currently exist.

I am an equal opportunity defensive when it comes to firearms (revolver and semi), but the J-frame (or similar) still has a lot going for it with regards to safety, ease of use, reliability and effectiveness for real world daily concealment. Are there scenarios where a citizen might be outgunned? Yes, but their are also scenarios where the lastest high capacity striker special shits the bed, in more ways than one.

[DaBull]

I recently picked up a pre-owned unfired Shield Plus just because the slight difference in the grip fits me so much better than the original Shield or the Sig 365 XL I had. I added the HD night sights.

Grip girth is what delayed my interest in concealed carry handguns. I just didn't like the feel of a slim grip in my hands. Now that their are double stack concealed carry guns (even if they are slimmer than full size duty pistols), I am much happier with them. The Hellcat feels thicker than the 365 to me, but not enough to make the switch.

[arbol]

Based on my own experiences during 30 years of defensive carry and personal risk assessments, I have two primary concerns with the latest carry guns:

- I refuse to be armed with a weapon that doesn't have either a full-stroke, full-weight DA trigger, or a positive manual safety (stiff with strong detents). Carrying a gun with a "great trigger" that has an enhanced potential for AD/ND is a NO-GO, regardless of training or other equipment crutches. The higher capacity guns combined with the P290RS, Rohrbaugh or 3914DAO action would be interesting, but unavailable due to striker fetishism.

- I also like the positive nature of a recessed heel magazine release or a paddle system. The chance of inadvertently activating a standard or extended mag side release far excced needing a John Wick fantasy-grade reload.

A high-capacity, sub-compact combo of the above doesn't seem to currently exist.

I am an equal opportunity defensive when it comes to firearms (revolver and semi), but the J-frame (or similar) still has a lot going for it with regards to safety, ease of use, reliability and effectiveness for real world daily concealment. Are there scenarios where a citizen might be outgunned? Yes, but their are also scenarios where the lastest high capacity striker special shits the bed, in more ways than one.

I too have graduated to carrying a gun safely, rather than for the immediate discharge. I will take the time penalty when I actually need to deploy it, in the favor of my personal safety, as I am carrying it all the time.

What I am wondering is if I am doing this in the best way (safety foremost, quick and readily available deployment), or not.

Currently I carry a striker fired pistol, without a mechanical safety, but with various trigger safeties, etc. But meanwhile, there is a striker, ready and waiting to hit the bullet.

So my solution, is to carry, unchambered. If and when I need it, I will have to chamber a bullet.

Is this okay, or are there better options available, that achieve the same level of safety, with better performance/availability?

Would a J-Frame be better, etc.

[Irving]

It's just fine, until the time you are alerted to the need for drawing your pistol by taking a knife or a bat to the arm, or you have to hold a door open while dragging someone out of the line of fire, or hold a door open while returning fire, or etc etc etc.

[arbol]

I'm starting to see the difference, where a J-Frame, can be perfectly safe, and then put into motion with one-hand, versus the two hands it takes to chamber a bullet with a striker fired pistol.

[ray1970]

I don?t judge others for their choices but for me I have a preference for simplicity. Anything I carry needs to be deployed with one hand and if I want it to fire I just want to pull the trigger. No manipulating a slide, no taking some manual safety off, etc.

Modern firearms by design are inherently safe to carry fully loaded. Lack of attention or complacency when handling the firearm is what leads to someone letting a round fly unintentionally.

To touch on what Irving mentioned, if you are suddenly and unexpectedly engaged by an assailant you might find it difficult to free up both hands to load your gun while you are grappling with the guy.