We're Doomed, Part 4 Million

[Irving]

Who goes out drinking by themselves with other people?

[Gman]

Be the designated car starter instead of the designated driver.

[wctriumph]

Wait outside the bars and offer to blow their pipes for $100..

Wait, wait, that didn’t come out out right …

[O2HeN2]

Once things reach the bolt-on stage, then it's truly mainstream.

Kina like this? Tesla crate motor.

O2

[Aloha_Shooter]

By the time it goes into effect all new cars would be level 5 anyway, and that'll probably be mandated.

Meanwhile, I'll still be driving my much-older, much-more reliable vehicles.

With all the new crap they keep throwing into vehicles (including that), even if each component is thoroughly tested and ultra reliable, there's still so many points of failure that they aren't going to be 200k cars in the future.

Now, an electric truck with a bare bones ECU, manual windows and locks, replaceable double DIN radio, I'd buy that. Problem is nobody will ever make it. Every electric vehicle has so much unnecessary proprietary hardware and especially software in it that while there will be examples that are maintained for decades, the cost for an average person to do that will be outrageously high, as the replacement screens will be hard enough, but what about fixing/replacing/patching the original software when they reach "EOS". It'll be like trying to drive a car around today that depends on internet-connected Windows 95, using the original netscape browser to reach websites that ceased to exist 15 years ago.

ETA: I do suspect eventually they will have kits to convert ICE engines into electric in old vehicles. I probably will do that. It will be bare bones and reliable in that capacity.

Retro fitting old cars to be electric is already a thing with a market. It's up and coming, so not exactly known in the main stream I guess.

Kina like this? Tesla crate motor.

O2

Ford is offering a crater motor at SEMA: https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a3...or-eluminator/

The biggest problem (as with factory made EVs themselves) is the batteries. Finding places for them, making them accessible enough that they can be serviced and cooled and still protected, and getting them at prices that don't make the whole process foolishness.

What I expect will become a big problem is access to "Fast Charging" with home made EVs. Right now if you try to repair a salvage Tesla, it will be locked out of super charging. You won't be able to use any sort of fast charging system with it. I expect the same will be the case for home made EVs eventually. In part because the industry doesn't want you driving EVs you didn't pay them for and in part because a poorly made EV could damage a charging station ... possibly with massive conflagrant results.

I agree access the batteries will be an issue. Those who love government regulation will point not only to the high voltage they're dealing with but the potential for extraordinary fires.

I don't know about access to chargers. Currently, there are private companies like EVGo who don't care who made the car but they do collect information about the car through the information protocol exchanged on the charger. I expect those companies will want to be sure the car they're connected to won't damage their equipment. Some sort of certification program through a third-party could address this but I don't know how that would work and it may be more trouble than the charging companies or the consumers want to deal with.