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    Grand Master Know It All eddiememphis's Avatar
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    Default We're Doomed, Part 4 Million

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    New cars will be required to have drunk driving detection built in.

    I'm out of words.

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    Just means my Suburban will have to make it to 500,000 miles.

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    Oh my god chicken little, everything is the end of the world with you.
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    By the time it goes into effect all new cars would be level 5 anyway, and that'll probably be mandated.

    Meanwhile, I'll still be driving my much-older, much-more reliable vehicles.

    With all the new crap they keep throwing into vehicles (including that), even if each component is thoroughly tested and ultra reliable, there's still so many points of failure that they aren't going to be 200k cars in the future.

    Now, an electric truck with a bare bones ECU, manual windows and locks, replaceable double DIN radio, I'd buy that. Problem is nobody will ever make it. Every electric vehicle has so much unnecessary proprietary hardware and especially software in it that while there will be examples that are maintained for decades, the cost for an average person to do that will be outrageously high, as the replacement screens will be hard enough, but what about fixing/replacing/patching the original software when they reach "EOS". It'll be like trying to drive a car around today that depends on internet-connected Windows 95, using the original netscape browser to reach websites that ceased to exist 15 years ago.

    ETA: I do suspect eventually they will have kits to convert ICE engines into electric in old vehicles. I probably will do that. It will be bare bones and reliable in that capacity.
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    The other side of me says, much like the ammo serialization, someone already has a patent for this and $2 million in funds to lobby

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    odd, I thought some of that hardware had to be re-calibrated quite often...

    On a side note; an adapter for small tire pumps will be available
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    Drunk Driving Detection is what they do to DUI offenders.

    Now, we are all DUI offenders?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxtArt View Post
    Now, an electric truck with a bare bones ECU, manual windows and locks, replaceable double DIN radio, I'd buy that. Problem is nobody will ever make it.
    I still contend that ICE to EV conversions for older cars is going to become a tremendous growth industry in the coming years. And since you're merely modifying old cars and not building new ones you won't have to meet all the new requirements (this is how hot rod shops avoid having to put ABS and airbags in the cars they restore and sell).


    Quote Originally Posted by arbol View Post
    Drunk Driving Detection is what they do to DUI offenders.


    Now, we are all DUI offenders?

    There are two ways to look at criminal justice, either everyone is innocent until proven guilty or guilty until proven innocent.
    There are two ways to look at the law; "everything is allowed except that which is expressly forbidden" and "everything is forbidden except that which is expressly allowed".


    Our justice system used to be predicated on the first one of both of those, but there's no power for the elites in that.


    These are the same people that say things like "due process is a white supremacist, capitalist, patriarchal concept" when someone says "maybe we should wait until all the facts come out" when someone they don't like is accused of a crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    I still contend that ICE to EV conversions for older cars is going to become a tremendous growth industry in the coming years. And since you're merely modifying old cars and not building new ones you won't have to meet all the new requirements (this is how hot rod shops avoid having to put ABS and airbags in the cars they restore and sell).
    I agree 100%. Of course I'm wildly derailing the topic here I am banking on that though, so I'll still be driving the same shit when I'm 92. Probably not though, cause my own odometer won't last anywhere near that long, but hey. Maybe my kids will...

    So if all the man-bun wearing gender identifying trendsetters want to suck a hose every time they get into a new vehicle to compete with the Jones'... a side effect is the value of all old vehicles will also go way, way up. Maybe eventually it'll be a lesser version of transferrable, where the used vehicles are worth dramatically more than new, because there is so much of them that is legislated away.

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    I remember from living in Germany that places that served would take your keys and not return them unless you passed the blow test. As I was a kid I don't recall if it was on base or german.

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