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    Quote Originally Posted by iamhunter View Post
    What you "Hear" is largely unfounded and the spread of misinformed, biased, and otherwise idiotic Glock haters.

    The TRUTH is that glocks are some of the most street tested and reliable guns on the market. If you don't like them, you don't like them, but it don't say they're not reliable or they don't shoot well, because they do.

    The number of glocks used and shot on a daily basis probably exceeds that of any other pistol by a factor of 10 or more.

    People say "Oh I saw my friends glock jam" or "oh my friend this.." or whatever.

    Until you have personally held a glock that has "blown up" or had a FTF or FTE in your hand, please stop saying "Oh i hear so many glock horror stories blah blah blah" because they are just that.

    STORIES.

    Accidents like this are bound to happen from time to time. They (and I) suspect bad ammo. but who knows, it could've been poor forging or a bad frame. It's bound to happen with the millions of guns you have on the market, and glocks tend to go under alot more stress and use than your typical handgun due to their widespread LEO application.

    I don't own any glocks, and typically prefer other manufacturers for certain cosmetic and functional features, but I grew up shooting my Dad's glocks, and it upsets me to see people unwarrantedly bashing what truely is a great pistol.

    I have shot glocks, handled them and they functioned alright, but they are still working on old polymer technology. the new SA XD series are much better IMO from a shooters standpoint, a feel in the hand standpoint and overall reliability standpoint.

    Even Rugers new line of pistols are better than a glock IMO.

    that is just me though, it is my opinion and I am not out to bash glocks but you do hear a lot more stories of a glock blowing up, especially the .40 cal versions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturtle View Post
    I've had a Glock 17 FTE on me a bunch of times. It was just from limp wristing though, so it doesn't really count in my opinion. Even though my own gun wouldn't FTE under the same scenario. The owner of that same Glock said it best when I sent him some picture of an exploded Glock, "It's a man made machine, you can't really expect it to never break or malfunction." This goes for all guns in my opinion. When ever I see a thread about a gun blowing up, the brand never matters, because you can find a similar thread for a gun of literally every manufacturer out there. I do get a kick out of the closet haters that crawl out of the wood work and say silly things though like, "That right there is why I'll never own a Smith & Wesson. Every single model is a ticking time bomb!" <- I got that from the thread where the guy blew up that revolver on the second shot.

    I would still blame the gun in that situation. that means something is wrong. what if you are an injured cop and can only limp wrist your pistol to save your life. all of a sudden a FTE happens and you are toast.
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    Personally, I think that the reason there are so many threads about Glocks blowing up, is because there are even more nut swingers acting like Glock is the only pistol that even exists. Few incidences that are just highlighted by the community. Kind of like news reporting on rapes like it is a brand new crime and hasn't been happening every day for the last 5,000 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturtle View Post
    Personally, I think that the reason there are so many threads about Glocks blowing up, is because there are even more nut swingers acting like Glock is the only pistol that even exists. Few incidences that are just highlighted by the community. Kind of like news reporting on rapes like it is a brand new crime and hasn't been happening every day for the last 5,000 years.

    I absolutely agree with this. Fanboys are just annoying.

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    In this case, I don't think it was the gun. I belive it was the ammo. If you watch the video, one will see that the frame below the slide is blown out. I've noticed that Glocks have quite a bit of unsupported case area. This looks to me like a doubble charged round. It would have been nice to have recovered the case.

    I'm not an expert, but this isn't the reason I won't own a Glock. Well maybe I would.

    Any body have a doner Glock that we can send some "proof" rounds through?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    I have shot glocks, handled them and they functioned alright, but they are still working on old polymer technology. the new SA XD series are much better IMO from a shooters standpoint, a feel in the hand standpoint and overall reliability standpoint.

    Even Rugers new line of pistols are better than a glock IMO.

    that is just me though, it is my opinion and I am not out to bash glocks but you do hear a lot more stories of a glock blowing up, especially the .40 cal versions.
    I personally like XD better as well....

    Like the above posters said there is a lot of Glock loving "nutswingers" but there is also alot of 1911 nuthugging Glock haters.

    Whether you like Glocks or not, they are a very solid, highly functional and reliable pistol.

    Whether you like 1911s or not, they are also a very solid, highly functional and reliable pistol.

    Saying that one or the other sucks because you happen to not like it is ignorant.

    (none of this is in any way referring to you sniper7, I'm just commenting on the handgun community as a whole)

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    Just a reminder,,into the waaay back machine,
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    When in the Corps, we did the transition from the 1911A1 to the M9 Beretta,M92.
    Well we had a few slides fly off,cracked frames. Hands scarred and even a few teeth extracted via flying slides.

    All later was due to the fact the Corps got a great deal on IMI TZZ ammo.
    Made for Uzis,kinda hot for those M9s.

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    Personally, I can't think of a factory gun I'd be afraid to own, let alone shoot.
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    When I went through the Armorers school for Glock Ka-booms were discussed. Prevailing cause was the fact of people shooting cast lead bullets from the polygonal rifled barrel. It will cause a pressure spike and can cause the barrel to fail...........
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    Quote Originally Posted by iamhunter View Post
    What you "Hear" is largely unfounded and the spread of misinformed, biased, and otherwise idiotic Glock haters.

    The TRUTH is that glocks are some of the most street tested and reliable guns on the market. If you don't like them, you don't like them, but it don't say they're not reliable or they don't shoot well, because they do.

    The number of glocks used and shot on a daily basis probably exceeds that of any other pistol by a factor of 10 or more.

    People say "Oh I saw my friends glock jam" or "oh my friend this.." or whatever.

    Until you have personally held a glock that has "blown up" or had a FTF or FTE in your hand, please stop saying "Oh i hear so many glock horror stories blah blah blah" because they are just that.

    STORIES.

    Accidents like this are bound to happen from time to time. They (and I) suspect bad ammo. but who knows, it could've been poor forging or a bad frame. It's bound to happen with the millions of guns you have on the market, and glocks tend to go under alot more stress and use than your typical handgun due to their widespread LEO application.

    I don't own any glocks, and typically prefer other manufacturers for certain cosmetic and functional features, but I grew up shooting my Dad's glocks, and it upsets me to see people unwarrantedly bashing what truely is a great pistol.
    I agree about unwarranted bashing of Glocks or any other brand of gun. But for you to simply pull numbers out of the air (or somewhere else) is just as bad. I doubt Glock numbers exceed "any other" pistol by a factor of 10 to 1. There are handguns out there that have been in continuous production for nearly a hundred years. Let's try to keep the issue in perspective

    I own and frequently carry a Glock 17, I've owned several Glocks in the past and I've carried them on duty for a number of years. They are generally extremely reliable guns. But they've also got a history of problems. Granted, most firearms companies do. But some of Glocks issues are, as of yet, unresolved. Glock also tends to keep a pretty tight lid on issues with their guns. Many police agencies, some large, some small, have in the past transitioned to Glocks with bad results. It seems the biggest problems have been with the .40SW Model 22.

    My personal experiences with Glock problems:
    • Got rid of a Model 21 carried on duty after a year because it wouldn't feed in cold weather. I tried various methods of lubrication, ammo etc... It was terrible when the temp got below freezing. Since it was a duty gun, it went bye-bye in favor of a Sig P220.
    • Had a Model 22 empty a magazine on a qualification day. First round fired on the qual course with 15 rounds loaded. Dumped the mag completely full-auto. We never could duplicate that. I just replaced the trigger w/trigger bar and never had any other issues.
    • I also owned a gun store for 8 years and experienced a few issues with Glock pistols...mostly minor.
    Here's a link to "The Gun Zone" and a page devoted almost entirely to Glock problems. And before anyone says Dean Spier is anti-Glock, he isn't. He just documents the problems and makes fun of the "Glocks are Perfection" zealots.

    http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/gt2004.html

    There's a lot of information there so it may take a while to work through everything. Don't ignore the sidebars, either....lotsa good stuff. And it's not Glock bashing. Spier generally just reports the facts and has plenty of documentation to back up what he says. When an issue arises and it's not the fault of the gun or design, he'll be the first to say so.

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