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    Zombie Slayer Zundfolge's Avatar
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    Default F Troop just raided Larry Vickers

    Stealing all his toys and then lying about their values.

    https://www.forfeiture.gov/pdf/ATF/O...tification.pdf

    https://www.tacticalshit.com/did-lar...ed-by-the-atf/



    And so it begins.
    (I hope his dog is ok)
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    Assuming the website they won't link is the 'other' site?

    So what are the details here?

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    Now youtubers has to disclose where they borrow those rare and/or class 3 firearms on a video to cover their own @ss?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    So what are the details here?
    The only details we have are the F-troop PDF
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

    "Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
    -Friedrich Nietzsche

    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
    -Penn Jillette

    A World Without Guns <- Great Read!

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    Default When do we get the rest of the story?

    Bio from Wikipedia below. Maybe he leaked some information about DELTA FORCE? The FED's will use a bullshit charge to intimidate, coerce, extort, etc. a person they want control of or use to their advantage. The "Official Notification" seems vague and ambiguous. How come no arrest warrant? If the USG disposes of the seized items, does that also mean they eliminated evidence? When ATF comes to mind, I always think of Waco, Branch Davidians. People being burnt alive in their own place of worship...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Vickers

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    I see they valued everything at a generic $1000.00. Guess that's so they don't have to pay but a fraction of the true value when they destroy the guns and they have to come up with reparations after he finally (and expensively) proves his innocence.

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    I found the listed values quite interesting as well. I know many of those items are actually worth $10k+.
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    Interesting pdf doc. Larry Vickers appears in multiple sections throughout the doc (apparently different code section violations). Others with a large number of seizures have arms that are described the same with wildly differing values within the same seizure. Some even show a seizure of a SINGLE ROUND OF AMMO.

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    Who is he? I have never heard of him. I see he was Army, does training and sells books.

    Why does he have hundreds of "machine guns" most of which are not identified?

    What are the charges to lead to forfeiture?

    Is he a dealer or a gunsmith? Someone fill in the blanks for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiememphis View Post
    Who is he? I have never heard of him. I see he was Army, does training and sells books.

    Why does he have hundreds of "machine guns" most of which are not identified?

    What are the charges to lead to forfeiture?

    Is he a dealer or a gunsmith? Someone fill in the blanks for me.
    He's retired Delta force, now owns Vickers Tactical and was one of the founders of IDPA. He's also a prolific author of "gun books" (often his books are considered "the" book on whatever subject). He also consults with a lot of gun manufacturers (including having a lot of input on the HK416). He also invented the "Vickers Sling" which is one of the more popular AR slings out there.

    The rumors I'm hearing is that because he's busy dying of cancer, he's let his SOT lapse and that's why the guns on the list are only $1000 (because they're all post sample, and AFT is letting him keep his transferable stuff).

    His collection is (well now was) considered one of the premier reference collections of machine guns and other interesting firearms.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

    "Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
    -Friedrich Nietzsche

    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
    -Penn Jillette

    A World Without Guns <- Great Read!

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