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    Quote Originally Posted by crays View Post
    Is everyone that receives government assistance bad, lazy or worthless?
    Certainly not. There are many people that truly benefit from assistance programs, because they need and even deserve the help.
    Agree with this 100%.

    I honestly believe that for every 1 person/family that legitimately needs assistance there are at least 5 people/families that are abusing the system.

    Government assistance programs drastically need significant reform in the form of skills/capability evaluations, training programs and employment and childcare assistance. Make participation mandatory to receive the benefits unless physical or mental incapacity are factors preventing participation. Have established goals/standards with a "2 strikes and you're out" policy. If you are capable of, yet unwilling, to work for your own future and success then you don't deserve benefits. And stop incentivizing the breeders who continually add to their brood in order to increase their benefits.
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    I recall years ago that we were dangerously close to 50% of the population that was receiving more in benefits from the government than they were paying in.

    After Covid, I would imagine we jumped over that mark by a fair margin.
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    I never said that abuses don't happen, of course they do.

    I'm not trying to debate whether government assistance programs should exist either.
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    Anyone know who the conservatives are for school board in Castle Rock? Usually I just vote against the names I see on the back of SUVs and minivans but I am pretty sure I have seen this on both sides this time around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAPA View Post
    Anyone know who the conservatives are for school board in Castle Rock? Usually I just vote against the names I see on the back of SUVs and minivans but I am pretty sure I have seen this on both sides this time around.
    Here ya go:
    https://www.vote4kidsfirst.com/

    *All the candidates answers to basic questions.
    *Except one Justin V Mathew who is on the ballot. Ive been unable to find ANY information on him aside from he is running.
    https://coloradocommunitymedia.com/s...s-guide,383148

    Found this. He might be an intentional divide the vote candidate. https://tracer.sos.colorado.gov/Publ...px?SeqID=50860
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    Awesome, thank you, yeah it seems the Peterson/Winegar/Williams/Myers is the conservative choice. The others are trying to defend equity education and CRT in a few cases.

    It is amazing how difficult it is to find quality information on these school board races. It's like they all try their best to use buzzwords and not say anything real other than "we are for the kids". No shit, I don't think the "hates kids" candidate is going to do very well.

    Agree on the Mathew guy, he is fishy!

    Oh and the CommUNITY group with Lueng Watkins Martinez and Holtzman is the crew with the minivan paintings on the back.
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    https://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...ential-lawsuit

    Ok, I am no on everything since Dems seem to want most if not all of this stuff and I am sure they thought it all up. The one I am stumped on is Prop 120. Polis is for it but all the other Dems seem to be against it. Then I read the article above and it talks about a lawsuit that can revert it if it is passed. Seems like it will help the Denver area most since property values went up here so much but then the money that would be no longer spent on taxes tends to be what rural areas depend on so a Yes vote seems to hurt rural areas more than front range areas.

    I am trying to read this on and off today during downtime at work and it is a shame that they can't make this more simple. Question should just be do you want to reduce property taxes by 7%? The end, let the gov feel the squeeze and have to figure out what to cut. I'd vote for that but anything more than two or three sentences allows for them to put too much pork in it. Screw it, going with NO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAPA View Post
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    Ok, I am no on everything since Dems seem to want most if not all of this stuff and I am sure they thought it all up. The one I am stumped on is Prop 120. Polis is for it but all the other Dems seem to be against it. Then I read the article above and it talks about a lawsuit that can revert it if it is passed. Seems like it will help the Denver area most since property values went up here so much but then the money that would be no longer spent on taxes tends to be what rural areas depend on so a Yes vote seems to hurt rural areas more than front range areas.

    I am trying to read this on and off today during downtime at work and it is a shame that they can't make this more simple. Question should just be do you want to reduce property taxes by 7%? The end, let the gov feel the squeeze and have to figure out what to cut. I'd vote for that but anything more than two or three sentences allows for them to put too much pork in it. Screw it, going with NO.
    2 year minimal tax break to allow the thives to keep $25 million per year for 5 years if passed. I don't care if it funds the homestead exemption. A no vote on this is easy. Same for the MJ tax. I don't use, but allowing a new government office to form is a big NO.

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