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    Default 2021-11 Election Discussion

    I got my ballot today. I am hoping this thread will be a good place to discuss and ask questions about the things we are being asked to vote upon.

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    I used to joke with Dad, "you can never go wrong with voting no".

    Now it is much less of a joke.

    I have two blue books sitting to my right, waiting to be read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiememphis View Post
    I used to joke with Dad, "you can never go wrong with voting no".

    Now it is much less of a joke.

    I have two blue books sitting to my right, waiting to be read.
    I'm for sure with you, and still think it is a good idea to just vote no on everything. I mean it is not like they are trying to reduce Government, or reduce taxes. You can't go wrong voting NO, to all of this.

    There have been exceptions however, like TABOR, the Tax Payers Bill of Rights, which we voted for before, (YES!), but is now under attack in the current 2021-11 Election.

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    White Book, appears to be Arapahoe County...

    Ballot Issue 1A: Continue funding for Arapahoe County's Open Spaces, Trails, and Parks, by extending the existing sales tax?

    Town of Deer Trail
    City of Littleton
    Arapahoe Park and Recreation District
    Proposed Southmoor Hudson General Improvement District
    Englewood Downtown Development Authority (does anyone remember Cinderella City?!)
    Strassburg Fire Protection District #6

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    Just opened my ballot, and I have;

    City of Aurora, Council Member at Large - Four Year Term, vote for two
    Candice Bailey
    Hanna Bogale
    Becky Hogan
    Danielle Jurinsky
    John Ronquillo
    Dustin Zvonek

    Adams-Arapahoe School District 28J - Board of Directors At-Large - Four Year Term
    Anne Keke
    Debbie Gerkin
    Danielle Tomwing
    Marques Ivey
    Michael Carter
    Tramaine Duncan
    Christy Cummings

    Then, the other three things I get to vote on are;

    Amendment 78 (constitutional)
    Amendment 119 (statuatory)
    Amendment 120 (statuatory)

    A constitutional amendment sounds pretty serious, compared to a "statuatory" amendment. I wonder if this is the anti TABOR amendment?

    For those that are wondering, TABOR, is the Tax Payer Bill of Rights (TABOR) amendment to the Colorado Constitution, that has historically protected Tax Payers from rampant Government taxation and spending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arbol View Post
    Just opened my ballot, and I have;

    City of Aurora, Council Member at Large - Four Year Term, vote for two
    Candice Bailey
    Hanna Bogale
    Becky Hogan
    Danielle Jurinsky
    John Ronquillo
    Dustin Zvonek
    Jurinsky and Zvonek claim to be pro-gun. They have warned that the current city council is ready to enact a gun ban after the election- Boulder style since the passing of that bill last year that allows municipalities to pass their own.
    They have gone to both Aurora gun stores and said they will stop the ban.

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    First off, you will notice that both the "blue book" and whatever this "white book" is say on the front cover, in prominent words;

    "Notice of Election to Increase Taxes on a Citizen Petition"

    WTF is that?!

    The White Book says,

    "Notice of Election to Increase Debt...

    We all citizens, just asking for you Government to increase our taxes and debt?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by arbol View Post
    We all citizens, just asking for you Government to increase our taxes and debt?!
    I have no doubt that enough citizens signed the petition.

    "Citizens" who like getting free shit are happy to ask the government to raise taxes on, basically, anyone who makes more than them, and use the money to give them more free shit. Or even on themselves, as long as they think they'll get more free shit out of it than they, personally, end up having to put in.
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    Looking at the Blue Book, surprisingly, I see three ballot initiatives...
    Amendment 78: Legislative Authority for Spending State Money
    Amendment 119: Learning Enrichment and Academic Progress Program and
    Amendment 120: Property Tax Assessment and Rate Reduction

    Zero of those make any sense to the layman, me, so therefore the thread to discuss them.

    Will look at the "White Book" next, and see if it makes any more sense.

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    The only tax law/bill I will vote in favor of is a repeal of an existing tax or a decrease.

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