Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
I just don't think people's willingness to use/abuse government provided services/funds correlates with how they vote.
I believe that perspective is naive.

I worked with 2 sisters a few years ago. One of the two was particularly vocal about her politics and her belief that the Dems are the only ones who care to give the "free stuff" to people in "need". She related how they and their mom got Food Stamps (EBT) as they were growing up and felt there should be no limitations on what products you could buy with that free money. She felt it was appropriate that those receiving EBT should be allowed to buy all of the steak and lobster (specifically discussed those two items) that they could afford since "they need some joy in their lives". I say get out and work for it and when you can afford it, then you an buy the steaks and lobster. I'm all for programs like WIC which strictly enforce what types of products it can be used for; all of it nutritious, wholesome food. I think EBT should be limited the same way.

There are plenty of people out there who WILL abuse the system as long as thy can. I have a neighbor couple who has 2 daughters (the husband is not the father of the 2 girls). They vote Democrat strongly and proudly every time (put up yard signs, etc. leaving no doubt who their preferred candidate(s) is/are). One of the 2 daughters is a crack whore. She's sold her body to get money for drugs repeatedly through the years. This has resulted in producing 4 kids all of whom went into grandmas care. Grandma, my neighbor, received thousands of taxpayer dollars every month for these kids. The 2 oldest kids, both boys, have had some really nice cars through the years. The oldest boy has had nicer/newer Cadillacs, and Lexus vehicles. The youngest of the boys still lives "at home" and has been in trouble with the law repeatedly through the years. He now has a minimum wage job yet he can afford to drive a very nice, slightly used yet still less than 5 year old Mercedes Benz. I can't afford to buy a Mercedes - at least not without having to sacrifice someplace else in my life. The boy totaled his first Mercedes a few months ago. After 2 months he's now driving another one. The money for these cars didn't come from grandma or grandad (she's a retired school teacher and he works janitorial for the school district). The money didn't come from any legitimate job this kid works at minimum wage. The money didn't come from a baby daddy since no one knows who they are. The money came from taxpayer funded government entitlement programs that are endorsed by the Democratic government servants they've helped elect into office. Gotta keep the government teat flowing with milk and honey so the Mercedes can keep getting purchased.

Maybe some day I'll relate my experience at a Safeway while I was in college. That's where I learned just how horribly broke the "free stuff" system actually is (remains so today).

My own son works slightly above minimum wage. He can't afford health insurance. Two years ago we went into the Obamacare health exchange system to get him insurance. We settled on something a couple of levels up from the bottom, but far from the top. He couldn't even afford the lowest option but I wanted to ensure he had something decent "just in case". I'm making the monthly payments of ~$250 for him to have this coverage since he can't afford it at all. "Affordable" health care my ass. But hey, the Democrats fixed the healthcare system for everyone; right?!

Keep being naive about how the programs get used and how folks are voting to ensure the programs continue. The more folks stay willfully ignorant about it the longer it gets to continue without reform to fix a broken system.