No Conc Carry at Gun Show??

[DD977GM2]

I may be way off on this but anyone here think of this concept....

Concealed is concealed?

Just saying

[Irving]

I may be way off on this but anyone here think of this concept....

Concealed is concealed?

Just saying

I wouldn't publicly agree with you.

[DD977GM2]

Just stating that concealed means concealed. Nothing more, nothing less or infered.

I wouldn't publicly agree with you.

[GreenScoutII]

Personally, the gun show isn't nearly awesome enough for me to care (others may feel differently), and since it is a private business decision, and not a local, state, or federal government issue, then I don't feel like my rights are all that threatened.

I have to agree with Stu on this one. If it is held on private property, then it is the property owner's decision. I may not agree, but I will respect it.

What I'm more concerned about however, is the message being sent to the general public. If operators of a gun show don't trust CCW holders to carry their weapons loaded... Then, well, you guys can see where I'm going with this.

I haven't been to a Denver gunshow in years, but the ones in the Springs have been pretty lame for a long time.

[battle_sight_zero]

The Tanner and the Crossroads are a jipp anyways. I was walking my toddler in his stroller when that idiot shot a round off. Have not been back since. However the shows are a rippoff, I am not aware of any deals or anything to be had at them that you cant get somewhere else for less and in better shape. Heck made me laugh when people there were selling the basic PTR 91s for 1700 dollars after I just bought the same model for 1000.

[Jer]

Exactly why I refuse to go to gun shows anymore. They can keep their overpriced junk anyway.

[bczandm]

It is about insurance and risk. Two AD's in one year proves the point.

The venues require the show promoter supply insurance. The math tells the insurance companies that the risk is elevated due to the potential of a loaded gun. Two AD's in the last year prove the math. As a result, insurance rates go up. Remove the loaded guns and the "risk" appears to go down to the insurance company. It's really simple math and economics. Keep in mind that no insurance means no shows.

It's sorta like the gas in your car. Low risk, until you take the gas for 1,000 cars and store it at one location... a gas station. The risk of a substantial accident goes up, therefore the cost to insure goes up. It's a well known issue within the insurance industry.

We can argue about all the politics, but having spent time on the fringe of the insurance industry and being ok at math, their logic really does make sense.

I was 20 feet away from the last AD at the Tanner show. I am sure that I am biased as a result, but as a CWP holder I see the logic and would find it difficult to argue for loaded weapons at the show, at least from the insurance companies standpoint.

[sniper7]

I have mixed feelings, after the two NDs, not ADs, but NDs....I can see why they don't want loaded weapons and for good reason. I know we all want to have a weapon in case something goes down, but I would have to say the risk of someone coming in to go on a killing spree is extremely limited due to the nature of the show.

It is one thing for a guy to walk into an unarmed school with maybe a couple police officers and the rest several minutes away, but considering the guns are right on the table for everyone to grab to nail the guy, the fact that a lot of people have a lot of hand to hand combat training, or that the way the guns are secured are pretty easy to undo, load and then you are good to go. plus there are police with loaded guns.

I like carrying and I would much rather carry CCW but when you go to a gun show you get the urge to handle weapons, check them out play with them and maybe forget to double check every single one to be loaded. you accidently grab a loaded gun or your own and forget to check, hand it to a guy because you have the intention to trade it and BAM.

Like I said I have mixed feelings. I would personally rather carry CCW but given the location and circumstances as well as insurance and everything else I can see why it could me more of a burden and risk than a benefit.

[ryanek9freak]

IT is kind of BS, but seriously, what could happen to you at a gun show that you would need your CCW gun for? I mean, someone would have to be seriously retarted to try to rob someone or something else, etc...

[Irving]

They might know of the no loaded guns rule and think it is like a school or something. Personally, I think the person who'd shoot at an armed criminal in a crowded cafeteria like that, would be nearly as stupid as the guy trying to rip off guns. Maybe it's just because there is no way I'd trust my own skills at this time though.