Alec Baldwin Shoots two, Kills One

[.455_Hunter]

I agree. The blue haired girl did not seem to be competent. I have also read that the gun has been used for 40 years in various movies.

In that time with all the (mis)handling, it is possible that someone could have modified it so it could drop the hammer without the trigger being pulled.

It is a movie gun so at some point the hammer notches may have filed down, the sear modified or removed or the trigger pinned back to make fanning it easier.

Dipshit said he pulled the hammer back a bit, then more, then more. Then the gun fired. Entirely possible with a modified gun if his thumb slipped off the hammer.

I agree with the above, but it shouldn't have mattered if there wasn't a live .45 Colt round in firing position.

[Great-Kazoo]

I agree. The blue haired girl did not seem to be competent. I have also read that the gun has been used for 40 years in various movies.

In that time with all the (mis)handling, it is possible that someone could have modified it so it could drop the hammer without the trigger being pulled.

It is a movie gun so at some point the hammer notches may have filed down, the sear modified or removed or the trigger pinned back to make fanning it easier.

Dipshit said he pulled the hammer back a bit, then more, then more. Then the gun fired. Entirely possible with a modified gun if his thumb slipped off the hammer.

while he had his finger on the trigger

[colorider]

Makes ya wonder if they were filming while this happened? I can't remember reading if the camera was rolling, or they were just setting up a scene. If it's on film, that would make for some good evidence on what happened.

[eddiememphis]

while he had his finger on the trigger

Obviously, if his finger was on the trigger the gun could go off.

There are plenty of experts writing and making videos showing it is impossible for the gun to fire otherwise. Most of them are talking about new guns, not older ones with unknown history.

If we take him at his word, that he didn't touch the trigger, how could the gun have fired?

I am no Baldwin fan. He is a blowhard and a fool that knows nothing about actual firearms and their safe handling.

I am trying to figure out if his story is mechanically realistic.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Obviously, if his finger was on the trigger the gun could go off.

There are plenty of experts writing and making videos showing it is impossible for the gun to fire otherwise. Most of them are talking about new guns, not older ones with unknown history.

If we take him at his word, that he didn't touch the trigger, how could the gun have fired?

I am no Baldwin fan. He is a blowhard and a fool that knows nothing about actual firearms and their safe handling.

I am trying to figure out if his story is mechanically realistic.

Personally, I think he's digging his own grave. John Schneider did an excellent video talking about the protocols for handling a weapon on set and they involve checking it at every stage of handling.

Having said that, I remember reading Westerns decades ago that talked about modifying the gun to make it easier to fan so it's possible that this gun was modified. If so, that should have been noted and explained by the armorer. I have no basis to judge her competence in this regard other than the presence of live rounds on set and her general appearance (which really has nothing to do with her competence but is obviously pejorative in some circles). It should all come out in the wash as long as the investigation is independent and competent. I have no faith in it being so with AB being Hollyweird royalty but one can hope.

[Aloha_Shooter]

John Schneider back with another great observation:


I hope the investigators are watching his channel.

[FoxtArt]

I do have enough information to believe the armorer is a piece of shit. When the initial details kept changing from e.g. an hour and a half to ten minutes etc. And then she has the audacity to blame an invisible conspiracy, yeah... Changing stories and deflecting blame. Classic signs of a piece of shit of any hair color. If she had a modicum of decency she would have expressed sincere condolences, cooperated with investigators and kept her mouth shut. Instead her only though is deflecting responsibility away from her however possible.

[eddiememphis]

John Schneider back with another great observation:

Unless it's a video of him shooting an arrow with dynamite taped to it, I question his expertise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ytB...=BrianColtrane

[Great-Kazoo]

I do have enough information to believe the armorer is a piece of shit. When the initial details kept changing from e.g. an hour and a half to ten minutes etc. And then she has the audacity to blame an invisible conspiracy, yeah... Changing stories and deflecting blame. Classic signs of a piece of shit of any hair color. If she had a modicum of decency she would have expressed sincere condolences, cooperated with investigators and kept her mouth shut. Instead her only though is deflecting responsibility away from her however possible.

Unlike Baldwins handling of this incident, right?

[FoxtArt]

Both are probably cut from the same cloth. One is just marketed at a higher price.