Alec Baldwin Shoots two, Kills One

[eddiememphis]

I read that last night.

It looks like he had his finger resting on the trigger. As he pulled the hammer back, he either let it go or it slipped with enough spring force to ignite the primer.

So, technically, he didn't pull the trigger.

He is, as many assumed, simply a dumbass with no idea how to safely handle a firearm.

[wctriumph]

The hammer will not go forward unless the trigger is pulled to the rear position. If I have my finger on the trigger and it is pulled back and I cock the hammer and my thumb slips the hammer will go forward and fire the gun. I have seen many people hold a revolver with finger on the trigger when cocking the hammer.

Baldwin screwed up and killed that woman and injured that man. He should go to prison just as you or I would if we did what he did.

[Sawin]

The hammer will not go forward unless the trigger is pulled to the rear position. If I have my finger on the trigger and it is pulled back and I cock the hammer and my thumb slips the hammer will go forward and fire the gun. I have seen many people hold a revolver with finger on the trigger when cocking the hammer.

Baldwin screwed up and killed that woman and injured that man. He should go to prison just as you or I would if we did what he did.

100%

[Aloha_Shooter]

The hammer will not go forward unless the trigger is pulled to the rear position. If I have my finger on the trigger and it is pulled back and I cock the hammer and my thumb slips the hammer will go forward and fire the gun. I have seen many people hold a revolver with finger on the trigger when cocking the hammer.

Baldwin screwed up and killed that woman and injured that man. He should go to prison just as you or I would if we did what he did.

This is exactly how Zane Grey explained his protagonist's fast draw in one of his many novels written over a century ago. The gunslinger kept the trigger depressed as he pulled the gun out of holster then he used the rotation of the pistol and his thumb to pull back on the hammer, releasing it as he got it on target. I think Baldwin likely read some of these same stories and knew exactly what he was doing except that he thought he had blanks because he didn't check the gun or ammunition when it was handed to him. Like a typical liberal, he's just trying to avoid the penalties for his bad decisions. Nevermind the fact he killed a woman and severely hurt another man.

[crashdown]

Baldwin is a dick.
…. but by this logic filming any movie like John Wick, Die Hard, Scarface, etc would be impossible.
Dont think any studio is gonna pay a headlining actor to empty each prop gun, inspect each round, and personally reload while they maintain proficient knowledge of how each firearm will be adapted to cycle blanks all while filming since this will obviously have to be done on set to ensure the actor is the last person to touch said firearm.

[bellavite1]

Baldwin is a dick.
…. but by this logic filming any movie like John Wick, Die Hard, Scarface, etc would be impossible.
Dont think any studio is gonna pay a headlining actor to empty each prop gun, inspect each round, and personally reload while they maintain proficient knowledge of how each firearm will be adapted to cycle blanks all while filming since this will obviously have to be done on set to ensure the actor is the last person to touch said firearm.

True enough, but, as you said, Baldwin IS A DICK, so fuck him!

[wctriumph]

Some producers invest heavily in training actors to properly use firearms for the scenes they will be using firearms. There are some great videos of Keanu Reeves and Halie Berry doing live fire training for the Wicke movies. Training with live ammunition.
Semiautomatic movie guns are specifically modified so that they cannot chamber and fire actual live ammunition. Like the guns the ammunition is specially made for film use. No reason that every other firearm used for tv and motion pictures can’t be modified in the same way.
No reason that any actor can’t be properly trained in proper firearms safety. Every time.

[00tec]

Rules for the, not for me

This buttplug will continue to speak out for gun control while using guns in every movie, just like that Taken dude. Baldwin will see no consequences from this from a criminal perspective.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Baldwin is a dick.
…. but by this logic filming any movie like John Wick, Die Hard, Scarface, etc would be impossible.
Dont think any studio is gonna pay a headlining actor to empty each prop gun, inspect each round, and personally reload while they maintain proficient knowledge of how each firearm will be adapted to cycle blanks all while filming since this will obviously have to be done on set to ensure the actor is the last person to touch said firearm.

Oh come on, don't be so meldramatic. It was a six-shooter. It take nothing to flip open the cylinder and see that either there are holes in the back of the brass if they're dummy rounds or that there are no bullets at the front of the cylinder if they're blanks. He probably spent more time walking from the prop desk to his mark on set. There is a reason they hire an armorer (and as a producer, he was at least partly responsible for the quality of the armorer they had on set) to check the ammunition and weapons but as someone who has been in many productions with firearms, it's unreasonable for him to act as if he was a newb who had never handled anything more than a water gun.

I am willing to bet John Wayne and Clint Eastwood knew the states of their weapons when they handled them and before they pointed them at anyone.

The relevance of the FBI report is that his bovine excrement about "it just fired on its own" doesn't fly.

[crashdown]

Oh come on, don't be so meldramatic. It was a six-shooter. It take nothing to flip open the cylinder and see that either there are holes in the back of the brass if they're dummy rounds or that there are no bullets at the front of the cylinder if they're blanks. He probably spent more time walking from the prop desk to his mark on set. There is a reason they hire an armorer (and as a producer, he was at least partly responsible for the quality of the armorer they had on set) to check the ammunition and weapons but as someone who has been in many productions with firearms, it's unreasonable for him to act as if he was a newb who had never handled anything more than a water gun.

I am willing to bet John Wayne and Clint Eastwood knew the states of their weapons when they handled them and before they pointed them at anyone.

The relevance of the FBI report is that his bovine excrement about "it just fired on its own" doesn't fly.

Baldwin is a dick.
... But you are implying different rules for different kinds of guns based on action type and capacity?
I am not speaking of all the peripheral garbage he has spewed, just that actors cant be expected to be experts or check what should be already checked.
How the hell would Heat of ever been filmed?
What if it was brake failure on a brand new vehicle on set? Actors should go through entire car to check all safety systems, seatbelt tensioner, fuel lines for leaks, etc?
And training an actor on how to use a firearm so they can look more authentic is a lot different than unloading each gun and inspecting every cartridge, 6 gun or 100 round drum, rules and expectations should be the same.