Boebert's Butt

[fitz19d]

I'm really unimpressed with the discussion here. A lot of insults and offhand dismissals, but not a lot of people here seem capable or willing to come up with a cogent counterargument. If you have anything thoughtful or measured to add, this is a forum for exactly that. If you'd rather it be an echo chamber, then the previous posts are a great start in that direction.

Some people view their vote as an expression of their values and beliefs, rather than simply a choice between two likely options. JTP80's choice to not cast a vote for someone he didn't believe in shows a lot more conviction than the vote of a person willing to slurp up whatever crap is set down in front of them. I voted libertarian in the two elections prior to the last one. I knew that my candidate wouldn't win. But I'm proud that I voted for what I truly thought was best for the country. Telling people that "any vote outside of the 2 parties is a wasted vote" is the #1 way to guarantee that nothing ever changes in this country. If we had a principled articulate 3rd party candidate like a Justin Amash in the presidential debates, the other 2 parties would have to field candidates who actually knew something. They have zero impetus to field real candidates right now, because people like most of y'all here are going go in 100% for whatever useful idiot they trot out.

Maybe because you arn't worth one. When in the history of the internet, at least in the last decade has anyone changed someone elses mind. Maybe not this specific thread but most of the same arguments in this thread have been made elsewhere at length. No matter how well sourced and supported. People do not change their minds anymore via internet debate. Usually it takes a real world experience or unfortunately some kind of shock or pain to their lives like seeing all these virtue signaling parents about vaccing their kids and 2 weeks later talking about timmy in the hospital with heart issues.

PS: Lol libertarians. I think many are closer to the rational principles of them, but as a party been a giant joke somehow nominating the worst candidates imaginable. Flip flopping openly trying to pander to the flavor of the year with BLM type stuff etc and pie in the sky imaginary economic plans.

[Vic Tory]

If we had a principled articulate 3rd party candidate like a Justin Amash....

Wow.

Amash was the first "Republican" to state Trump should be impeached ... for completely imagined offenses. Yeah, he's principled. The only problem is his sole "principle" appears to be himself.

I am astounded at the number of people who have been bamboozled by Amash's schtick.

IMO, Amash is to Michigan as that phony Dan Maes was to Colorado. The same kind of people fell for both guys.

[leightoncash]

That's silly, Amash is a constitutional scholar and a strict constitutionalist, and was a member of the 2nd amendment Caucus. That's a "schtick" to you???
He gave extremely specific reasons why he believed Trump could be impeached, you know, the kind that would be given by a constitutional scholar who also loves the 2A.

[hollohas]

O.M.G.

3rd party candidates. Voting strategies. Politics. Blah. Blah blah.

All over a funny (or not funny to some) dress.

All ^ this ^ nonsense is exhibit A of this divided country.

Frick.

[HoneyBadger]

Wow you guys are depressing. It’s like a starving lion’s den in here. Way to eat your own and do your best to alienate others that have some things in common (like support for the 2nd amendment). Instead of building up your own team, some of you seemed determined to chase everyone away. Well done.

[Vic Tory]

That's silly, Amash is a constitutional scholar and a strict constitutionalist, and was a member of the 2nd amendment Caucus. That's a "schtick" to you???
He gave extremely specific reasons why he believed Trump could be impeached, you know, the kind that would be given by a constitutional scholar who also loves the 2A.

I trust Amash's constitutional scholarship about as much as I trust 0bama's.

[TEAMRICO]

Who could forget this?

[Great-Kazoo]

Who could forget this?

it may have been a different story, for baldwin, if obama had been on set..

[ChickNorris]

Uffda. This might be the most schizophrenic thread I've seen here yet.

Tangental, surely.

[Bailey Guns]

It almost feels like a Thanksgiving dinner with family...