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  1. 01-09-2022, 14:11 #21
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    This is a mini nightmare already............................


    So mid November I bought a SilencerCO Hybrid 46 through Silencer Shop to take advantage of the BOGO deal. I at the time did the Form4 Paper as I thought, since I didnt hear about the new eFile form4 hitting in mid December.

    I have not heard anything from Silencer Shop and they usually will update you on the process, specifically ATF cashing my 200 tax. I logged on and low and behold Silencer Shop apparently held off on submitting the paper Form 4 and changed me to eFile. That is cool as heck, except....................I had no clue as they did not tell me.

    Make matters worse the status said FAILED to certify. So emailed them Friday 1/7/2022 to ask (not heard back yet) but read through the instructions again and turns out I have to an ATF eFile account. Have one but been a year, apparently I have to go update it and reset my password............................. now I guess I have to certify in person with my Dealer that the CAN will be shipped to once approved, not Silencer Shop. I talked to my dealer on the phone and they are having a whole bunch of trouble getting the certifying to work and are waiting on ATF to resolve their account on their end. So my paperwork fails to certify with ATF eForms in the meantime. Sigh..................


    I guess with something new there is ALL the bugs in the system up front. As long as I get approval in 90 days that would make up for it.
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  2. 01-09-2022, 19:15 #22
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    From this whole debacle, I've heard terrible things from silencershop customers. On the other hand, I've heard great things from capitol armory customers.

    I'm holding off to see what kind of a circuis this ends up being, but I'm leaning towards going with CA when I do buy. Plus they have a location in CO and can ship directly to your door when the can is approved
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  3. 01-10-2022, 10:27 #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by BootScootin View Post
    From this whole debacle, I've heard terrible things from silencershop customers. On the other hand, I've heard great things from capitol armory customers.

    I'm holding off to see what kind of a circuis this ends up being, but I'm leaning towards going with CA when I do buy. Plus they have a location in CO and can ship directly to your door when the can is approved
    It seems other people on other forums are saying the exact same thing, shame.
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  4. 01-10-2022, 18:26 #24
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    I bought my turbo CAN from Capitol armory at the time they offered to do the Form 4 and send directly to me. I thought that was weird and never heard of that but they advertise it. I was expecting 9-10 months wait and had them ship to my local gun range so I can shoot with it while I wait.

    The big issue is right now my eFile Form 4 paperwork is on hold until I can certify with my local dealer through the online eFile system which they are having issues linking my account to get certified. Anyone gone through the certify in person yet with the eFile system Form 4?
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  5. 01-15-2022, 13:53 #25
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    Read this morning on Reddit that form 4's on efile are getting approved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by electronman1729 View Post
    Read this morning on Reddit that form 4's on efile are getting approved.
    Dang, that's awesome! One month approvals on suppressors!
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    It looks like the SilencerShop efile system for form 4s is 100% good to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoser View Post
    It looks like the SilencerShop efile system for form 4s is 100% good to go.

    Well, it is up to say the least,

    Twice my efile showed error "failed to upload." I emailed Silencer shop and they responded with something about learning how many in a batch they can upload at one time to the eFile system and that I should see the email to certify in person (for individuals, not trusts) with my local dealer by 1/15. Way past that now.............

    The category has been in "ready to certify" for the last 2 weeks. looking around Reddit (finding people in the same boat) a very useful place to look BTW. That my stage is in orange, I have to wait until ATF accepts, then it will turn green and I will get the notification to certify.

    There needs to be a simple flow chart created, even Silencer Shops' videos and instructions are not very "detailed."
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  9. 01-29-2022, 11:34 #29
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    If the ATF system is busy, it can take a while.

    I pushed a bunch through last night while everyone was driving home from work or at the bar with friends.
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  10. 01-29-2022, 11:51 #30
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    A trust?

    The more I read the more I am confused about the orange or green categories and when the local dealer should get notice. I emailed Silencer Shop again. (will get an in answer in 3 days.)

    I caught a thread of people "pissed off with Capitol Armory (CA)." Apparently prior to efile CA was touting how once approved they can send your CAN directly to your house, people loved that. With eFile people where saying now even faster, YEAH!

    Apparently the rule is that for individual's you have to certify in "person" which meant this would not work. So CA is apologizing to those individual filers that they can either re-submit as a Trust or go to paper form 4, or drive to CA and certify in person. Yikes!
    "The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles. --Jeff Cooper"



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