Trucker protest/embargo of Colorado

[arbol]

He did not wake up that morning and say to himself that he is going to murder as many people as possible today.

He did not say to himself, I am trusted with a big truck on a big hill, and this will make it easier for me to murder people today.

Was he negligent, yes, but so are a lot of other people, including the people that gave him that route, and that cargo, and his Commercial Drivers License.

[BPTactical]

He did not wake up that morning and say to himself that he is going to murder as many people as possible today.

He did not say to himself, I am trusted with a big truck on a big hill, and this will make it easier for me to murder people today.

Was he negligent, yes, but so are a lot of other people, including the people that gave him that route, and that cargo, and his Commercial Drivers License.

Says the guy with Serial Speed Limit Breaker for a handle.

You can’t make this shit up

[Little Dutch]

He did not wake up that morning and say to himself that he is going to murder as many people as possible today.

He did not say to himself, I am trusted with a big truck on a big hill, and this will make it easier for me to murder people today.

Was he negligent, yes, but so are a lot of other people, including the people that gave him that route, and that cargo, and his Commercial Drivers License.

It’s super weird you would sympathize with that murdering shit bag. See something of yourself in him maybe?

[Vic Tory]

I was called Insane because I compared the drivers disregard for life and property to the actions of somebody who just opens fire into a crowd.

To me they share the same willful and wantonly negligent and reckless behavior.

We agree. Except I don't consider his behavior "negligent," but CRIMINAL. (So I am more crazy than you!)

He did not wake up that morning and say to himself that he is going to murder as many people as possible today.

He did not say to himself, I am trusted with a big truck on a big hill, and this will make it easier for me to murder people today.

Was he negligent, yes, but so are a lot of other people, including the people that gave him that route, and that cargo, and his Commercial Drivers License.

"Negligent??!!!" That's nuts!

He did CHOOSE to pass not one, but TWO truck escape ramps. He CHOSE not to put the truck in the ditch at any of at least a dozen places. He CHOSE to smash into several vehicles, with the near certainty people would be maimed and/or killed.

[arbol]

Well there you go, I am a serial speed limit breaker, and probably the safest driver you will ever know.

[BPTactical]

Well there you go, I am a serial speed limit breaker, and probably the safest driver you will ever know.

[arbol]

That I might get overwhelmed and cause an accident that kills people? In a truck, down I-70, as an inexperienced driver?

There's a reason these are called accidents. Have you never had an accident?

[3beansalad]

There's a reason these are called accidents. Have you never had an accident?

BS. Accidents are unavoidable. There were many ways this dirtbag could have stopped that truck without killing others.

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[arbol]

You make it sound like he was sitting there, whistling dixie, and driving hell bent on murder.

But that's probably not the case.

He likely had no experience in driving down i-70, in a truck, with potentially fading brakes.

[Aloha_Shooter]

4 people.
I fully disagree with mandatory minimums in any space, but 110 years was a touch much here. He was stupid and fucked up. Should have been 25, IMO

Thank you for the correction. I could have gone with a sentence less than 110 years but even 25 is too little for this case IMO.

He did not wake up that morning and say to himself that he is going to murder as many people as possible today.

He did not say to himself, I am trusted with a big truck on a big hill, and this will make it easier for me to murder people today.

Was he negligent, yes, but so are a lot of other people, including the people that gave him that route, and that cargo, and his Commercial Drivers License.

That I might get overwhelmed and cause an accident that kills people? In a truck, down I-70, as an inexperienced driver?

There's a reason these are called accidents. Have you never had an accident?

There's a reason many of us who are or have been firearm instructors talk about negligent discharges instead of accidental discharges. It'd be an accident if the truck's brakes failed due to a condition that couldn't be foreseen -- this is NOT that case. This guy's actions were negligent, not accidental. He passed on at least 2 opportunities to pull off safely and CHOSE not to -- decisions which cost lives. Alec Baldwin probably didn't wake up planning on shooting 2 people either -- but he did shoot them. I might even be persuaded to be more lenient if it was just ONE negligent decision made in the haste -- but this guy made the wrong decisions several times.

You make it sound like he was sitting there, whistling dixie, and driving hell bent on murder.

But that's probably not the case.

He likely had no experience in driving down i-70, in a truck, with potentially fading brakes.

Yeah and I have no experience driving the Nurburgring at 160 mph. The B-52 crash at Fairchild in 1994 was a crash, not an accident, and is cited in Air Force leadership training precisely because the pilot-in-command made bad decisions -- and so did the people who let him make those decisions. If I choose to do something I lack experience in then eff it up, that's on me. It's not chance, it's not an act of God, it's not an accident.