Marshall Fire Prospective

[BushMasterBoy]

I was just thinking of all the old Colorado mining areas that are denuded of trees. They cut down all the trees to build and fuel the mines. Some places are still covered in old stumps. Reforestation is the key to building a watershed. And it has to be managed by fire roads, permit logging, surveys, etc. It is a lot of work!

[arbol]

I regularly hike in past Colorado wildfire areas, in the mountains, some approaching 20 years old, and they have yet to recover.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayman_Fire

Nor should they. This is nature.

[GeorgeandSugar]

My worry of climate change is the acidification of the ocean. This biosphere we live on is actually very delicate. The ocean produces most of the oxygen through photosynthesis by plankton. An increase in carbon dioxide levels will produce carbonic acid and a decrease in the oceans ability to sustain oxygen producing organisms. Only offset I can think of is to plant trees. Another way would be to produce biodiesel growing lipid bearing algae in bioreactors.
As far as the Marshall fire being blamed on global warming, it is a bit of a stretch.

FYI. You can search this website for articles on acidification. https://wattsupwiththat.com

?Alkalinity: By definition, a water-based solution with a pH of 7 is neutral. Above 7 is alkaline, below 7 is acidic. Unfortunately, some scientists have stated that lowering the pH of a solution is acidifying it, even if the pH remains above 7, which is effect reducing the alkalinity, not increasing the acidity. To TWTW, the use of the ?scientist?s? definition would mean that lowering the pH of drain cleaner (14) to that of bleach (13) is acidification. Yet both are highly alkaline and corrosive, and clearly unfit for consumption.

Writing for the CO2 Coalition, Jim Steele et al. have produced a paper addressing the misleading term ocean acidification, which is an example of political rhetoric. As Steele writes:

?Ocean ?acidification? from carbon dioxide emissions would require a virtually impossible ten-fold decrease in the alkalinity of surface waters, so using that term is misleading. Even if atmospheric CO2 concentrations triple from today?s four percent of one percent, which would take about 600 years, today?s surface pH of 8.2 would plateau at 7.8, still well above neutral 7.

?In fact, ocean health is improved rather than damaged by additional CO2, because it is a phytoplankton food that stimulates food webs. Converted CO2 allows phytoplankton such as algae, bacteria, and seaweed to feed the rest of the open ocean food web. As carbon moves through this food web, much of it sinks or is transported away from the surface. This ?biological pump? maintains a high surface pH and allows the ocean to store 50 times more CO2 than the atmosphere. Digestion of carbon at lower depths maintains the lower pH in the deeper ocean. Carbon is then stored for up to millennia.

?Upwelling recycles carbon and nutrients from deep ocean waters to sunlit surface waters. Upwelling injects far more ancient CO2 into the surface than diffuses there from atmospheric CO2. Upwelling at first lowers surface pH, but then stimulates photosynthesis, which raises surface pH. It is a necessary process to generate bursts of life that sustain ocean food webs.

?When CO2 enters ocean water, it creates a bicarbonate ion plus a hydrogen ion, resulting in a slight decrease in pH. But photosynthesis requires CO2. So marine organisms convert bicarbonate and hydrogen ions into usable CO, and pH rises again. Contrary to popular claims that rising CO2 leads to shell disintegration, slightly lower pH does not stop marine organisms from using carbonate ions in building their shells.?

As with the greenhouse effect, political rhetoric has changed an important physical process, needed for diverse life on the planet, to something that is to be feared. Ignored in the political rhetoric is that photosynthesis, critical for life, consumes CO2, thereby raises pH.?


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[GeorgeandSugar]

Good article. No real surprise on root causes. Surprised it had not happened earlier. Tragic. Hopefully a wake-up call to our government officials.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/01/...-a-connection/


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Here is more on the topic. There is always more than what the media will report. Investigative reporting or the desire to dig into events like this would be a lot more helpful in our understanding and perhaps encourage people to be proactive to protect their property or better yet our wild land fire management officials.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/01/...imate-science/

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/01/...limate-change/


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[BushMasterBoy]

Unless a giant volcano explodes, then all bets are off. Italy just launched a satellite to help monitor the planet. Palm Beach county is making requirements for homeowners to raise buildings above rising sea levels. Some streets in Miami are flooding, that never flooded before. I have seen the dead coral reefs caused by local pollution.
Reading about ocean changes and actually diving and seeing for your self are two different things.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COSMO-SkyMed

[BPTactical]

Does this mean Ann Margaret isn't coming?

[Great-Kazoo]

Does this mean Ann Margaret isn't coming?

Sadly, no

[BPTactical]

Sadly, no