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    Quote Originally Posted by Vic Tory View Post
    Not starting a thread for this but ... Roll Tide!!! (Two minutes to game time...!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Circuits View Post
    Sorry to hear about your loss. It wasn't important to me, but I guess it was of meaning to you.
    Glad to see another non-Alabama team win, even if they are another SEC school. It was an entertaining game, especially second half.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    Denver's defense finished 3rd in the league. To miss the playoffs with that good of a defense is unheard of. Most all of their talent is very young & they shipped of some aging & expensive pieces. They've got some $50mil in cap space to go after a QB (looks like Aaron will stick around GB now so... Russell Wilson maybe?) and on top of that Denver has got eleven draft picks this year. This is going to be one of the most coveted head coaching positions available in the league this year. For good reason.
    I don't think Russell Wilson is going anywhere. Denver needs to think long-term anyway. Not some high-end QB on the downhill slide to retirement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    I don't think Russell Wilson is going anywhere. Denver needs to think long-term anyway. Not some high-end QB on the downhill slide to retirement.
    Yeah, because that worked so poorly for Denver the last time they did that & had a defense like this.
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    So, you'd like Denver's success to be founded on the last team Super Bowel winning QBs play for?

    That type of strategy used to work for the Avalanche during their Stanley Cup days prior to the salary cap. Guys would go there just for the chance at winning the cup before they hung up their skates. That doesn't seem to work under a cap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    So, you'd like Denver's success to be founded on the last team Super Bowel winning QBs play for?

    That type of strategy used to work for the Avalanche during their Stanley Cup days prior to the salary cap. Guys would go there just for the chance at winning the cup before they hung up their skates. That doesn't seem to work under a cap.
    I think you missed the point based on this response.

    Also, my example was Russell Wilson and I would offer push-back at the idea that he's a QB on the downhill slide to retirement. He played behind one of if not THE worst O-Line in the NFL this year. You can keep Teddy Bridgewater though... that was working really well for them. I bet you're going to say you wouldn't take Aaron Rodgers either, right? I mean, what a washed up has-been amirite?

    Are we seriously comparing Russell Wilson to Teddy Bridgewater right now as your primary stance on how to build a championship winning team? What is your solution? So far, you seem quick to smack down my examples and ideas w/o adding much of your own.

    If you tell me that Denver can package Teddy, some picks, a couple of younger skill players that show a little bit of promise as well as some of those 11 picks Denver have in this upcoming draft and ship them off to Green Bay for Aaron Rodgers and Devante Adams (since that's about the only way you'd pull him away from GB now) I'd jump at the opportunity. Hell, GB may even throw in their offensive coordinator if Aaron likes him to sweeten the pot. Denver brass can make him head football coach and the Superbowl is Denver's to lose.

    Or you can keep throwing turds like Lock & Bridgewater against a wall and see if any of them stick. That's been working out well as of late.
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    Neither....

    We tried both, and we failed both path. LoL.

    Draft
    -Brock osweiller 2nd round
    -Paxton Lynch 1st round.
    -Drew Lock 2nd round

    Vet
    -Case Keenum playoff prior season
    -Joe Flacco many playoffs
    -Mark Sanchez - playoffs and butt fumble.


    Too much coordinator change.
    Not all players can memorize 100+ plays times X amount of coach/coordinator brings.
    Including Fox, we never kept a coach for 4+ years since Mike Shanahan.


    Maybe we need a better scouter?
    upper management shakeup?
    Ownership change?
    ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    I don't think Russell Wilson is going anywhere. Denver needs to think long-term anyway. Not some high-end QB on the downhill slide to retirement.
    Gman, are you getting tired of Seahawks fan yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPrena View Post
    Neither....

    We tried both, and we failed both path. LoL.

    Draft
    -Brock osweiller 2nd round
    -Paxton Lynch 1st round.
    -Drew Lock 2nd round

    Vet
    -Case Keenum playoff prior season
    -Joe Flacco many playoffs
    -Mark Sanchez - playoffs and butt fumble.


    Too much coordinator change.
    Not all players can memorize 100+ plays times X amount of coach/coordinator brings.
    Including Fox, we never kept a coach for 4+ years since Mike Shanahan.


    Maybe we need a better scouter?
    upper management shakeup?
    Ownership change?
    ?
    I couldn't help but notice you left out one Peyton Manning in your list of vets who just happened to win Super Bowl 50 not too long ago... was my initial point. Thanks for bringing that back around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    I couldn't help but notice you left out one Peyton Manning in your list of vets who just happened to win Super Bowl 50 not too long ago... was my initial point. Thanks for bringing that back around.

    Yeah. Players comparison was post Manning, and coach comparison was post Shanahan.

    I should have kept all comparison post Manning and Kubiac.

    Still too many coach,coordinator, and qb changes. Maybe Bronco nation is not as patience.


    Typical route is probably get a veteran who can play few years to playoffs and groom a rookie into a system. However, Osweiller to Texan shows that, it can also fail.

    At this point, I m willing to take every good options that rolls into this franchise. Vet and/or rookie.

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