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    Man, freedoms great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxtArt View Post
    Wasn't overly familiar with them but looked them up.

    Yeah...

    A classic case of complete narcissistic idiots that think "loopholes" exist, with no legal experience, that will most likely end in broadening the definition of a machine gun and close the door on all sorts of other trigger packages.

    Aka, "fucktards".
    They went by the definition provided and made a part. The ATF does not have the authority to make a new definition.

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    This was destined to go bad from the beginning...

    The surprising thing here is that it's taken this long for the ATF to go this route...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 00tec View Post
    They went by the definition provided and made a part. The ATF does not have the authority to make a new definition.
    That definition was rendered null and void by Trump...
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    For those who forgot the discussion from last year: Linky linky...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant H. View Post
    That definition was rendered null and void by Trump...
    And judges have disagreed that a bump stock is a machine gun as well, because the definition doesn't fit. Cases have been tossed

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    Edit: Not worth it, but it's a shame so many that should be allies simply are not because they are happy to cling to what they can while slowly being chipped away.
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    Sounds like the feds picked up a fairly popular YouTuber today for conspiring and delivering AutoKeyCards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxtArt View Post
    Wasn't overly familiar with them but looked them up.

    Yeah...

    A classic case of complete narcissistic idiots that think "loopholes" exist, with no legal experience, that will most likely end in broadening the definition of a machine gun and close the door on all sorts of other trigger packages.

    Aka, "fucktards".

    What part of their design relies on a "loophole"? It fires one round when the trigger's pulled. It fires one round when the trigger is pulled again. It WILL NOT fire more than one round with one pull of the trigger. Period. The only mechanical assist is in the reset. There's a spring that helps to push the trigger forward to reset the firing mechanism so it can be fired again by ANOTHER pull of the trigger.

    And Rare Breed Triggers hired lawyers to research this and one guy on the team was an ATF agent for many years. They researched this plenty. That's why they're so confident in their position that they ignored the ATF's demand that they stop production and took the ATF to court.

    The only "fucktards" in this equation are those that think this design = a machine gun...regardless of how much legal experience they have. Because there's no way a rational person could look at the design of the trigger, watch it function, and then come to the conclusion that it provides for more than a single round being fired with a single pull of the trigger.
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    Its FuddArt, don't waste your time.


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