Open Discussion of all Things Electric Vehicle (aka EV) for Those Pro or Con, BE RESPECTFUL!

[MrPrena]

Bruh!!!!!
I am averaging 4.4mi/kw which is about 148mpge! That was mostly city driving though.

Better part is that about 20kw of power (too lazy to do energy; times hour) was FREE from free charging places!
Around 90 miles of FREE gas electricity this week!

Note: in order to get 90 mile range at 19mpg on tacoma is 4.74 gal. At $3/gal x 4.74gal = ~$14 worth of fuel for free if If driving 90miles of taco equivalent.

[DDT951]

It's become one of my favorite things to do for people who have never been in one because it's not comparable to anything you've ever experienced in your life unless you fly fighter jets. I'll beat 'em from 0-60 though.

Try a nearly a 100hp shot of nitrous on a big displacement motorcycle. You might not say it not comparable to anything I have ever experienced. I guess one difference is the bike one must actually ride and not let the car do the magic (not claiming that the magic that cars do getting off the line now is bad thing... but it takes very little skill whereas not long ago it took skill to launch a vehicle hard.

[DDT951]

I'm the same. Hell I have two air-cooled and carbureted motorcycles in my garage!

What is a Carburetor?

[DDT951]

I?m holding out for an electric Harley. They will be such better bikes when you don?t have the vibration and rumble to speak to your soul.

I think the big supporters for all of this EV stuff are either the ?save the planet? or ?big oil is bad? crowd or the super practical, vehicles are just a way to get from point A to point B crowd.

Anyone who appreciates a mode of transportation for reasons beyond just a mode of transportation just isn?t going to be sold on electric vehicles.

The Harley Livewire is selling so well....

https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/8/22...ce-specs-order

Harley even spun off the brand...

[MrPrena]

how true. The EV crowd reminds me of the incandescent bulbs are bad for the environment. crowd. SO................................ the push was on to go green, doing away with them, in favor of (Remember these?) CFL bulbs. Oh the hand wringin g over incandescent bulbs, how bad they were, blah, blah, blah....


Then once word was out the CFL bulbs used (iirc) mercury. They disappeared, replaced by led's. Ask the ev crowd, what would happen. Once they realize the mining, production and overall material use for EV's was actually worse than petro, for the environment. Soon to be replaced by other than EV vehicles. Bet those folks act like. OH EV, who drove those

Yup.
I still have some incandescent and LED with some CFL.
Mainly LED now, but it has some usage of its own.

Our other vehicle is gas guzzling 4.0 V8 biturbo (faster lap time than hellcat in laguna seca). I hope I don't offend anyone with < 18mpg.

[Martinjmpr]

What is a Carburetor?

A small tube filled with wizards and magic.

[Jer]

Well since you started this "discussion" asking to be respectful


I'll be less than polite when it comes to someone like you. Who for some reason ISN'T TAKING NO FOR AN ANSWER!

I explained why they don't work for me. I then explained it again. Since you seem to be ignoring what i've said. I'll SAY IT ONE MORE TIME. I have no inclination, desire, or even ponder buying an EV. After admitting you "HAVE NO IDEA" on the leg room. You then come back with . Well the Model S has lots of leg room. I'm sure it does for someone WITH 2 LEGS. FFS Jer give it a rest. A normal ICE vehicle with moderate center console doesn't work for someone like me with a full prosthetic.

Yet here you are trying to sell me on something that a person with 2 legs has no clue, why it doesn't work.
So let's wrap this up.

1st question. What happened to that Tacoma, you fawned and preened over a few years ago


2nd question, actually a statement.

From reading your entire thread. It appears the only one who needs convincing how GREAT AN EV IS. Is you. Sounds like you either have buyers remorse, OR so ignorant and tone deaf to those who FOR PERSONAL REASONS could care less about you or your EV's.


That's about as respectful as i can be, without getting a time out.


BUT keep trying to sell me, or question my reasons WHY I WILL NOT BUY ONE AND.......... i'll slam the door on you like those pesky jehovah witness.

Who like you, WILL NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER.

Someone like me?

Not really sure how you took anything I said as trying to sell you anything. I was offering up the info I had positive and negative. Not sure how you read any of that as me trying to sell you anything or not taking no as an answer. Never even know I was asking a question.

If you have no desire to buy an EV or learn more about them... why are you in this thread. This thread is very clearly an open forum to discuss EVs and questions. It's not for people to just crap on everyone else.

All I was doing was giving you MY experience. So many people talk about "Teslas" as if they're all the same and don't realize that a Model 3 is NOT a Model S. They go look at a Model 3 and say "Teslas are smaller than expected" even though the Model S is absolutely cavernous. It barely fitrs through my single garage dour and is wider than my Tacoma. Some Model S cars DON'T EVEN HAVE A CENTER CONSOLE. I even told you I have no idea what the requirements are and asked you to share as I would love to learn. What the hell has a guy got to do to make people realize that I didn't post ANYTHING with a tone. I literally wanted to know. Those are the damn words I said!

I've been nothing but fully transparent with my posts from top to bottom. I'm an open book and that was the point of this thread. How the hell am I trying to sell you anything if I'm also fully transparent about the negatives too? Even your own post contradicts yourself over and over.

I really don't give a hobo's crap if you buy an EV. I just want people to reach that decision based on ACTUAL REAL INFORMATION and if it's not for you.... FINE! I really don't care. Seriously. I'm not selling anything and I'm not trying to convert anyone to something that won't work for them. That's all. this really isn't a difficult concept. I don't get it. Some people are so afraid of being convinced of something other than they hold to be true that they lash out against anyone who isn't echoing what they want to hear.

Hell man, I thought you knew me better than that but I guess not. I swear to god, this forum has gone so far downhill and even the people who I thought knew me are just rude and inconsiderate these days.

[Jer]

OH Look Pot calling kettle , Black.

Who have I been disrespectful to? Without reading tone into my posts that ISN'T THERE, tell me who I'm being disrespectful to.

[MrPrena]

Okay, we (at least I) are not trying to turn anyone. I really don't care you drive Fuel Cell Toyota Mirai or Wankel Rotary engine vehicle.
One day, I got real sick and tired of going to Costco and wait 3-5min to fuel my Tacoma and spend about $40+. I had to do that every week. I just wanted to offset the cost and one less visit per week to gas station.


So, I decide to look at PHEV or EV. I decide to go with EV after finding 7500 rebate+ state rebate+ Xcel $500-1300 (income sensitive), and also $3000-5500* rebate from Xcel (income sensitive) as well. On top of that , I do not need to spend $40/week on gas. $40/week x 52week = $2080 savings (Minus ~$8.75 to 10 per month on ~60-85kwh charging per mo).

Since I did not take home any salary (except deduction, depreciation, and write-offs) & did not withdrawal or sold any securities positions, my salary is $0/yr, and I will be most likely qualified for more rebates for having an EV.


Is this EV my favorite vehicle I've ever purchased? no.
Is this EV my best choice financially? YES**

**what if car breaks down? What if that expensive battery goes bad? 10yr warranty will cover during my lease term.


*

[DDT951]

No matter what peoples opinion of EVs are....

They will be the future.

One reason. Pollution. Even if we have to burn dirty fuel to generate electricity, it is easier to have pollution reducing devices on industrial sized power generators than it is to have all the pollution control devices on ICE vehicles.

And the industrial power generators are NIMBY for urban voters whereas ICE pollution is in the urban areas.

EV will happen. It is just a matter of how quickly it will happen.