Open Discussion of all Things Electric Vehicle (aka EV) for Those Pro or Con, BE RESPECTFUL!

[MrPrena]

I had 50 to 51% on the battery last night and charged it till 8am. It went upto 78% 211 miles w/ slow level 1 charger.

I think 211 miles will be more than enough through sat Aurora trip.

I put ~8.7 gal (91, $30) on the other car yesterday, and it will probably get me about 165miles.

[HBARleatherneck]

I cant imagine an electric vehicle fitting into my life. I have nothing against them. I have never even seen one. However Im sure they are going to be our future. Everyday technology evolves. Batteries are getting better, things are getting smaller. Maybe the technology will eventually work for very rural living. Maybe it will work for real work. Right now my Ram Chassis Cab Cummins can tow over 25,000#(new one says 35,000) and has a 74 gallon fuel capacity. Which means if I had an assistant to help drive, we could drive a fully loaded trailer to San Diego without refueling. When that is able to be accomplished by an electric vehicle, the working world will accept them.

To be fair I have never owned a car. Never will, unless it's a 57 Chevy Belair, 55-59 Tbird, 32 or 34 Ford coupe,etc

[DDT951]

Source please for the 80% of 400 mile range in 10-15 minutes. I can't find that, even looking at Tesla's information. Maybe 50% of range in 15 minutes using a Supercharger.

New Model S starts at $94,990. Sedans don't work for us. Really expensive sedans really don't work for us.

That has been an issue with EVs.

They are "premium" cars charging more than ICE cars. Really, based upon manufacturing costs, EVs should be lower, but subsidies have pushed prices up and novelty has them higher.

EVs will be more popular when prices is the same (or lower) than ICE vehicles without subsidies.

[zulu01]

As I've stated numerous times now, you don't need a "Charging station" to charge your car if you buy the right car. I've got a duffle bag full of adapters I made and I can charge just about anywhere in the country where there is electricity. Some take longer than others but planning ahead will alleviate any issues this could cause. There's still electricity in far more places than gas stations is the point.

What types of places do you go when you need a charge and there is no dedicated charging station? Are people/businesses open to letting you charge your car? Are they charging for the juice?

[Gman]

If I were a marketing person and could have my way for and EV (which I am not and cannot respectively) what I would request.

An EV pickup similar to the Rivan or F150 Lighting but with the addition of a propane powered generator. Think 5-7kw?

That way when the truck is needed for long distance or out in the mountains or away from power the generator would be run to recharge batteries and the generator could be run while driving long distances to keep the batteries charged.

But most of the time the truck would be a plug in EV.

Yes it is a hybrid of sorts, but one where the car is still EV and the "hybrid" is only used when needed to charge batteries. It would have to be engaged by the driver.

Similar in concept to a Chevy Volt. Electric drive train with a gasoline generator to eliminate range anxiety.

[Gman]

As I've stated numerous times now, you don't need a "Charging station" to charge your car if you buy the right car. I've got a duffle bag full of adapters I made and I can charge just about anywhere in the country where there is electricity. Some take longer than others but planning ahead will alleviate any issues this could cause. There's still electricity in far more places than gas stations is the point.

What's the point of your "point"? I haven't needed to knock on someone's door in the sticks where the lights are on to ask for gas, so why would I need to ask to borrow an outlet where there's no charger?

The only electricity that matters in this conversation is where it is useful for EV owners, not everywhere that it exists and it isn't. Please keep the conversation relevant.

Perhaps you can explain why you have "...a duffle bag full of adapters I made..."?

[ray1970]

I have a pretty hard price limit on vehicles. I have never spent over $25K on any vehicle I?ve owned. I guess if there comes a day when used Teslas with fresh batteries and motors can be had for that price I can reevaluate if an EV is feasible for me.

[DDT951]

I tried to get a Taycan as loaner car.

Dealer wouldn't give me one they said they are having issues with them (software issues) and don't want to give people a bad impression by using as loaners. At least they were honest. The service department said "wait a while if you want one" (the sales guys would probably say otherwise)

[DDT951]

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/p...o-s-drag-test/

Look at how quick the Tesla and Taycan are...

Not too shabby for a green automobile..

But one thing to notice. The Model S in Ludacris mode does 0-60 in 2.3 seconds. Quarter mile is 10.51@ 125. That means at higher speeds it falling on its face. Look at the car above it. 10.48@139.7. That is closer to the speed a mid 10 second car should be hitting. The EVs are torque machines but cant keep up the HP on the top end.

Of course there is the argument that in the USA... all you need it 0-80 mph and the electric cars excel there.

[DDT951]

One thing an EV will never do..

Ignite the senses like a nice V12, Desmo-twin, a big block V8. (one could also argue that potato-potato-potato is also in that mix with the senses).

The sound and feel cannot be duplicated.

This was in the news today..

https://www.foxnews.com/auto/future-...s-air-electric

"What it would allow the brand to continue to deliver the aural experience many exotic sports car buyers expect, which can't be provided by near silent electric motors, making its cars arguably even more exotic in the future."