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    Default Thoughts about Ukraine?

    Anyone care to share their thoughts on this current situation?


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    A. War will eventually strengthen our economy
    B. We should have withdrawn from NATO decades ago
    C. Practice your Cyrillic writing

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    SF units with a plentiful supply of Javelin and Stinger missiles could wreck havoc against invading forces. Probably too late to stock up and train now.

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    An extended war really benefits nobody. But I could foresee the purpose of the general attack being that it will paralyze Ukraine's military forces by requiring them to disperse all over the country, then Russia comes in and nibbles off the bits it wants.

    After that it declares that the breakaway provinces are now part of Russia and it becomes a fait accompli. Putin basically says that he's going to stop his attacks (once he's gotten what he wants) and solidifies his control over the area. Maybe even lets the ethnic Ukrainians leave if they want to.

    At that point, the war only continues if the Western nations want it to continue - and I don't see any real appetite for war with Russia anywhere outside of Ukraine.

    EDITED TO ADD: This attack then serves several purposes:

    First of all, it essentially makes Ukraine Russia's bitch. Even if Ukraine stays independent (I think it will), every Ukrainian leader will know that any time Putin wants a piece of Ukraine, he's going to take it and nobody is going to lift a hand to stop it.

    Second, it makes the world know that Putin is willing to use military force to get what he wants, and that he's not afraid of the Crazy Uncle Joe administration. Putin can use that leverage to squeeze concessions out of other countries without having to fire a shot. Putin can get a lot for Russia just by glaring menacingly at other countries because it's not like NATO is going to do anything about it. Could even cause NATO to start to crumble at the edges which further solidifies Putin as the hegemon of Europe.

    Finally it makes Putin look like a tough guy at home and burnishes his reputation there.
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    We need to stay the hell out of it. The US has no claim to being the "good guys" (as if there is such a thing in international politics) in the situation there. All of our attempts at military intervention for the past two decades plus have been abject failures. Time to mind our business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick-Boy View Post
    We need to stay the hell out of it. The US has no claim to being the "good guys" (as if there is such a thing in international politics) in the situation there. All of our attempts at military intervention for the past two decades plus have been abject failures. Time to mind our business.
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    So why no sanctions personally on Putin? Biden didn't seem to want anything to do with answering that one.

    What would personal sanctions do anyway?

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    It drives me nuts when I hear people say "The Ukraine".

    There is no "the" in front of it. It's akin to saying The Australia or The Peru.

    I had a buddy from Kiev and he would correct anyone who said it. At 6'4" and 350 lbs, people listened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiememphis View Post
    It drives me nuts when I hear people say "The Ukraine".

    There is no "the" in front of it. It's akin to saying The Australia or The Peru.

    I had a buddy from Kiev and he would correct anyone who said it. At 6'4" and 350 lbs, people listened.
    The Australia seems like a nice place to visit.

    Not sure about the Peru.

    I still haven?t made it to the Ireland or the Scotland and they?re on my bucket list.

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    It looks a lot like the Sudetenland in 1938.

    Does it drag the entire world into a war again?

    Ironically, Poland is once again threatened by a hostile force. What if Putin's forces come into Poland next?

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