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    Pretty much the entire world is having a meltdown over Putin's actions so far. And rightly so... If he used nukes on a Ukrainian city that would put an end to him and Russia as it exists today. He'd also likely lose a major Russian city in the process. He has a lot to lose.

    Nukes (and fear) are the only option the Russians have for projecting their military power around the world (by that I mean anything other than a land battle in Europe). Logistics have ALWAYS been a problem for the Russian military. They have a massive army but they can't move it and support it around the world like we can. Their navy isn't a match for the US navy and the combined navies of the major western countries. Putin won't resort to nukes over Ukraine. If it gets any worse for him they'll find a way to "settle" their differences and he'll withdraw forces in a way to save face. It'll all be BS but that's how it'll be marketed.
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    Once again the irony. The same people who decry Thoughts and prayers, after a shooting. Are now ....Offering thoughts & prayers, for Ukraine.


    It does make a great distraction for the "2022 truck convoy" Since the NG and other agencies have erected fencing around some areas in d.c.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    Pretty much the entire world is having a meltdown over Putin's actions so far. And rightly so... If he used nukes on a Ukrainian city that would put an end to him and Russia as it exists today. He'd also likely lose a major Russian city in the process. He has a lot to lose.

    Putin won't resort to nukes over Ukraine.
    I'm not sure he could if he wanted to. As I said earlier, it's not like there's a big red button on Putin's desk that he pushes to launch nukes. There is a chain of command going down from Putin to the guy who actually pushes the button or turns the key. Unless every single person in that chain was a die-hard (literally, as in willing to die) Putin supporter, it's likely that somebody along that chain would put a stop to it before it got to a launch.

    I mean, maybe I'm wrong but this isn't the Cold War where the USSR strictly controlled news going in and out of the country. Every Russian has the ability to know very well what is going on in the world. How many of them are willing to immolate the world to serve Putin's megalomania? Putin may very well be willing to destroy the world to prove he's a tough guy, but unless every general, colonel, captain, sergeant and private all the way down is willing to do so, I don't see it happening.
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    I read a headline where the newly imposed sanctions against Russia are already having a devastating affect on the Russian economy.

    That was fast.

    Also, wasn?t their economy pretty much a wreck to begin with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    Pretty much the entire world is having a meltdown over Putin's actions so far. And rightly so...
    I suspect Putin is more in the wrong here than in the right. But every day we discover that what we were told yesterday was a lie ( https://thenationalpulse.com/2022/02...-social-media/ ) so I'm not ready to condemn him, nor ready to see his cities nuked, nor ready to duck-and-cover out of fear of his nukes.

    The fact that every Democrat, George Soros and the leftist media are so gung ho to condemn Putin and praise Ukraine makes be wonder if we're not being suckered into something nefarious here yet again (WMDs in Iraq, the sinking of the US Maddox in the Gulf of Tonkin, "Remember the Maine!" Operation Northwoods*, etc).

    *which thankfully never came to fruition ... but can you imagine what would have happened if it had ... we might not be here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    I suspect Putin is more in the wrong here than in the right. But every day we discover that what we were told yesterday was a lie ( https://thenationalpulse.com/2022/02...-social-media/ ) so I'm not ready to condemn him, nor ready to see his cities nuked, nor ready to duck-and-cover out of fear of his nukes.

    The fact that every Democrat, George Soros and the leftist media are so gung ho to condemn Putin and praise Ukraine makes be wonder if we're not being suckered into something nefarious here yet again (WMDs in Iraq, the sinking of the US Maddox in the Gulf of Tonkin, "Remember the Maine!" Operation Northwoods*, etc).

    *which thankfully never came to fruition ... but can you imagine what would have happened if it had ... we might not be here.
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