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    I’m getting a little bit of joy with each video I see of a Russian helicopter getting shot down or a Russian tank/bmp on fire next to the road.. Hope this whole debacle takes Putin down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick-Boy View Post
    We need to stay the hell out of it. The US has no claim to being the "good guys" (as if there is such a thing in international politics) in the situation there. All of our attempts at military intervention for the past two decades plus have been abject failures. Time to mind our business.
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    The Biden admins actions over the last year have facilitated this invasion.

    I second Hbar statement, not one drop.
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    I don't know what to think about the whole Ukraine situation because I flatly don't believe any of the media anymore. At this point I could be standing outside, watching the sun rise and if the media told me the sun was rising I'd assume they were lying.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

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    At least we were able to get some arms to Ukraine. The Javelins have been effective so far.

    Russia and China were buying their way with our government to position themselves where they wanted to be. Trump threw a wrench in that for 4 years. Now they're cashing in.

    Economic sanctions won't do jack. Remaking the USSR is worth more to them than what the sanctions can take. Sanctions take forever to have an influence and haven't been effective in the past, so why would we think they'll work in the future?

    Can't trust NATO to come through. Germany gets half of its natural gas from Russia.

    Our leadership (including the MSM) is trying to pass the buck stating that the sanctions won't affect our economy. It's a global economy. It's all BS.

    We really haven't had to face the music for the dangers of weak leadership. Those chickens are coming home to roost.

    Have to laugh when I hear Biden say that Russia better not try cyberattacks against us. I'm sitting here thinking, you doofus, you gave him a list of our sensitive areas less than a year ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiememphis View Post
    It drives me nuts when I hear people say "The Ukraine".

    There is no "the" in front of it. It's akin to saying The Australia or The Peru.

    I had a buddy from Kiev and he would correct anyone who said it. At 6'4" and 350 lbs, people listened.
    The Australia seems like a nice place to visit.

    Not sure about the Peru.

    I still haven?t made it to the Ireland or the Scotland and they?re on my bucket list.

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    Maidan Square in Kyiv. Live view. Some intel indicating it may get bombed tonight

    https://youtu.be/jgL0mA2SeGs
    Last edited by 00tec; 02-24-2022 at 18:36.

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    Reporter "what if Putin calls your bluff on the sanctions"

    Biden: "it's not a bluff, they're real..."

    Reporter "if it's not a bluff, why wait? why not impose them NOW?"

    Biden : next question

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    The only reason Democrats hate Russia and Putin is because the believe the Russia-gate lies and think Putin is pro-Trump.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

    "Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
    -Friedrich Nietzsche

    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
    -Penn Jillette

    A World Without Guns <- Great Read!

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