Thoughts about Ukraine?

[Gman]

And as we know from our own example, crushing the economy hurts the people at the bottom long before those at the top even notice.

[BushMasterBoy]

They say the Rus are shelling a active nuclear power station responsible for 1/4 of Ukraine power production. They do know Rus children will be drinking radioactive milk? The fallout of an uncontrolled reactor meltdown will contaminate the worlds crops and livestock.

https://news.yahoo.com/live-updates-...074543182.html

[RblDiver]

Russia appears to be using thermobaric weapons. Seeing the sky light up with these is crazy.
https://twitter.com/JPaulKirby/statu...00442407944195
https://twitter.com/JPaulKirby/statu...83669201842185
https://twitter.com/redmanjustine/st...80156325445640

[hollohas]

So Russia said they were JUST building up troops on the border for training. And the world just watched. Then they invaded.

Now the Russians are saying they're JUST invading Ukraine to prevent them from joining NATO. And the world just watches.

What are the odds the world just watches when Russia builds up troops on Ukraine's border with Poland or Romania for "training"? The other countries have much smaller armies and would be a cake walk after Ukraine.

[FoxtArt]

So Russia said they were JUST building up troops on the border for training. And the world just watched. Then they invaded.

Now the Russians are saying they're JUST invading Ukraine to prevent them from joining NATO. And the world just watches.

What are the odds the world just watches when Russia builds up troops on Ukraine's border with Poland or Romania for "training"? The other countries have much smaller armies and would be a cake walk after Ukraine.

Watch the international response be the same too. "Well, yeah, they are NATO, but if we send planes and troops over there, we'll be in direct conflict with Russia and they have nukes, so we'll observe and report instead"

[Great-Kazoo]

Russia appears to be using thermobaric weapons. Seeing the sky light up with these is crazy.
https://twitter.com/JPaulKirby/statu...00442407944195
https://twitter.com/JPaulKirby/statu...83669201842185
https://twitter.com/redmanjustine/st...80156325445640

One of the comments.


And there's us, using bamboo toothbrushes and moon cups to help the environment, and Russia just incinerates the world and these poor civilians in days.

[DDT951]

It feels like European Red Dawn…

This nuclear reactor thing is scary. There are claims they are placing explosives in it to threaten Europe with fallout.

At this point, I think NATO (and hence USA) should get involved in a limited basis.

Use NATO AirPower and disallow any Russian aircraft to operate over Ukraine.

Use special forces to go in and secure nuclear facilities.

Use NATO AirPower to neutralize targets that attack in any way nuclear facilities.

[Martinjmpr]

At this point, I think NATO (and hence USA) should get involved in a limited basis.

Use NATO AirPower and disallow any Russian aircraft to operate over Ukraine.

Use special forces to go in and secure nuclear facilities.

Use NATO AirPower to neutralize targets that attack in any way nuclear facilities.

You really think the citizens of NATO countries (who pissed their pants at the thought of the US striking a faraway country like Iraq or Syria) are going to be in favor of going to war against a country that can drop a nuke into their backyards?

To say nothing of the fact that Russia retains - at least theoretically - the ability to do the same to the USA.

[Martinjmpr]

My prediction is that the Russian operation continues for another week or so and then once they've consolidated their gains, Putin agrees to a ceasefire on the grounds that (a) he gets to keep what he's got and (b) NATO does not expand to any other European country.

In a way, that kind of sucks but on the other hand, this was really Putin's war. Dictators have a way of eliminating anyone with enough support or charisma to challenge them so when Putin bites the big one, I think things go back to normal. But it will be tense few years.

[Martinjmpr]

It feels like European Red Dawn…

This nuclear reactor thing is scary. There are claims they are placing explosives in it to threaten Europe with fallout.

I'm pretty sure weather patterns move West to East in Europe just like they do here. So if that's true, Putin is basically pointing a gun at his own head.