Thoughts about Ukraine?

[Great-Kazoo]

Oil just went to $127 barrel. $5 gas is coming.

As of 4:30 this afternoon. It's $4.65 per in Boise Id.

[Bailey Guns]

WSJ showing it's over $130 barrel now.

[OtterbatHellcat]

I began questioning Russias ground force capability after the first few days of the invasion. Seems their only power is in nukes and hypersonic missile stuff.

It was funny the other day as I listened to an analyst say "any warthog pilot would be salivating for a broken down convoy such as this".


I enjoyed watching five Apaches flying over my house today heading west. They probably didn't see me waving at 'em, but there's a chance they might have.

[Bailey Guns]

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How does $60k month sound?

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[Mick-Boy]

Don't fall into leftist thinking. "If they're for it, I'm against it" is the position they took for four years.

It is possible for both sides to agree on some things. Just not a lot of things.
I think this is one of those rare circumstances.

Another way to put it...

I recently saw the quote that "Republicans think democrats are people, with bad ideas. Democrats think republicans are bad people, with ideas."

The former allows evaluation of the merit of the ideas. The latter requires you to reflexively disagree with everything the other side believes in.

O2

I suppose "leftist thinking" is one interpretation.

Alternatively, I could be looking back at all the times the war drums have been beaten over the past two decades, who was beating them, and where that has led geopolitically. I could be recognizing that the US has fomented two revolutions in Ukraine during that same time frame to oust elected governments that didn't suit us (hurray democracy). It could have occurred to me that really powerful people and their media shills have a financial interest in Ukraine that has nothing whatsoever to do with "democracy" or US national interests. And I would just like to see us opt out of involvement in this one. Not our circus, not our monkeys.

[BushMasterBoy]

A few articles appeared today about wheat prices in the Middle East skyrocketing. World wheat prices are going to rise proportionately. Personally, I think this whole war is about commodity prices and food security for Russia. All the Rus talk about genocide and Nazism is just pure propaganda.
Locally common folks around me are raising sheep, cattle, turkey, geese, etc. and zoning is allowing it. House construction is going full steam. That keeps the authorities busy doing building permits and raking in the revenue. No money in harassing people over their chickens.


https://www.mtpr.org/montana-news/20...ion-of-ukraine

[hollohas]

We're obviously worried about gas prices and reduction in supply due to Russian oil exports being hit. Which is valid. But there's another major issue.

Wheat.

Russia is the world's biggest wheat exporter in front of the US. Ukraine is the 5th biggest. Russia and Ukraine together account for 29% of global wheat exports. Together, they more than double US wheat exports.

That's basically going to go away during this war.

Now, China is saying their winter wheat crop is the worst on record. Down 20%. China isn't a wheat exporter, but their reduced domestic production is going to increase demand on wheat exports from other countries.

A global wheat shortage is coming and it's going to cause major problems. Not good.

[clodhopper]

We're obviously worried about gas prices and reduction in supply due to Russian oil exports being hit. Which is valid. But there's another major issue.

Wheat.

Russia is the world's biggest wheat exporter in front of the US. Ukraine is the 5th biggest. Russia and Ukraine together account for 29% of global wheat exports. Together, they more than double US wheat exports.

That's basically going to go away during this war.

Now, China is saying their winter wheat crop is the worst on record. Down 20%. China isn't a wheat exporter, but their reduced domestic production is going to increase demand on wheat exports from other countries.

A global wheat shortage is coming and it's going to cause major problems. Not good.

If the price spikes, many US farms will switch to growing wheat to chase the profits. Likely a one season/year issue. But that one will be tough.

[whitewalrus]

We're obviously worried about gas prices and reduction in supply due to Russian oil exports being hit. Which is valid. But there's another major issue.

Wheat.

Russia is the world's biggest wheat exporter in front of the US. Ukraine is the 5th biggest. Russia and Ukraine together account for 29% of global wheat exports. Together, they more than double US wheat exports.

That's basically going to go away during this war.

Now, China is saying their winter wheat crop is the worst on record. Down 20%. China isn't a wheat exporter, but their reduced domestic production is going to increase demand on wheat exports from other countries.

A global wheat shortage is coming and it's going to cause major problems. Not good.

Time to go gluten free. There is going to be quite a lot of fallout from Russia getting shut off from the rest of the world. They also export timber and other cereal crops aside from wheat.

Oil market just jumped first. Others will be moving as well.


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[Aloha_Shooter]

If the price spikes, many US farms will switch to growing wheat to chase the profits. Likely a one season/year issue. But that one will be tough.

That's not something they do overnight. It will take a minimum of a full growing season to take advantage of the situation. Farmers who know what's happening may be able to change their plans for spring planting but I suspect many of them won't because their fields aren't set up for wheat and many of them already have contracts in place for specific produce.