Hoser, hello Sir. PD match? Is that pistol division or peublo or....?
I would love to actually come to a match, but to be plain honest, I'm a scardy-cat. Ego aside, I think I'm a halfway decent shot. Nothing special but I can handle my own. However, these talks about 5 shot groups in 3 seconds measuring less than an inch (just pulling figures out of the air) and competing seems nerve wracking for just a guy who benchrests and punches paper. I've always wanted to do like a tactical obstacle course live fire type thing. I just don't have vests, million mags, etc. The sheer amount of knowledge that seems to eminate from the topics started on this forum (along with the commardary) can be quite intimidating to the "uninitiated". Once again, "one of these days" I might make it out to one. Money and time are the biggest protagonists right now though besides my hesitancy.
On the inet I'm fine, but in real life I'm almost an introvert. Hard for me to go places where I do not know someone. Kind of weird for a musician huh? Of course, how many musicians are not weird? HAHA.
Now I've really de-railed the thread.
I am going to break down and finally buy:
1. Mosin Nagant 91/30 rifle that I have wanted for a while.
2. M1 rifle from the CMP next time I am in Atlanta.
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I don't think I've ever seen anyone put down groups like you are talking about.
You are confusing people showing pictures of rifle groups and assuming that's what is on the other end of the camera when watching a Todd Jerret video. I'd say very few people can do that. When I go to a match, I'm ecstatic to even hit all the targets.
I'm not taking anything away from these guys that live at matches, but unless you are doing a bullseye match, no one measures how far apart your groups are, just if you hit the target or not.
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Dude, the PD match is the Prairie Dog/sniper challenge. I went to the last two matches. I had a blast! Got my ass handed to me both times, but still had fun. It is a very informal competition. The .308 you mentioned would work pretty well. http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6763
Heres the link. Check it out. I promise, everyone there is friendly and no one will laugh at you even if you shoot as bad as I did!
Here's the rub about shooting competitively regardless of the type of shooting; unless you've been around it, you have no idea how to gauge just how good a good shooter is. Weather your show up to shoot or you show up to watch, regardless of the type of shooting competition, you are going to see some guys shooting that will blow your mind. Then you say to yourself, "there's no way I can do that." The problem is the high level shooting is taken out of context. It's obvious you can't do that high level shooting when you start. I've never seen a newbie that could.
Newbies come out to shooting competitions for various reasons. The ones that stay are the ones that want to get better regardless of where they started in the depths of suckatude.
SA friday is exactly right. I shot Running Game Target at a very high level of competition in the late 80's and early 90's. It is a ten metre air rifle event. Anyway, when I started, I couldn't even hit the target consistantly. I was away from competative shooting for many years except for an occasional smallbore silhouette match or round of trap with my dad. I'd really been looking for something new to try. I enjoyed the PD match a lot and I will continue to compete.
I really sucked the first time and the second time wasn't much better. There was some improvement however. My goal in any competition is just to improve my own performance. I compete only with myself. The only objective is to achieve my personal best performance. If you genuinely focus on that, one day you will surprise yourself with how well you can shoot.
well last purchase was a pistol (Steyr M40-A1) so next will be a rifle (Springfield M1A)
maybe one of these
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D99NHb6B03s
Returning to the original subject-
I'd like -
A .30-40 Krag, correct military configuration. Don't really care which model.
A trapdoor Springfield, once again correct military configuration. Same model preference.
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