Ukraine - Take two

[Gman]

Seems like we're seeing that Russia's military isn't/wasn't ready for battle, let alone a major conflict. They are taking heavy losses and are running out of men and equipment.

So what's the result? Is this going to force whatever military industrial complex Russia has into gear, allowing it to hit its stride for a bigger conflict before everyone else? Or is this simply going to deplete them so deep that they won't be able to extend this into a more widespread war? Or does it force them to use the big weapons...?

Russia needs technology for high-end weaponry, which they can't produce. They're currently buying drones from Iran of all places.

[BushMasterBoy]

This drone tactic seems to control the battlefield. The FEBA (forward edge of battle area) is so fluid. In this video a repeater station of the Rus forces was detected and destroyed. The drones and coordinates are done using a tablet.

[Joe_K]

When you are using nerve agent to kill civilian people outside your own country, you are evil. The Russian regime is evil. Putin has used nerve agent to disable political opponents. Same with nuclear weapons, if you use them against Ukraine, there is going to be a response from the west. Russia has a history of unusual tactics to silent dissent including ricin laced bullets and polonium poisoning. If you think the Russian regime is not planning to attack US people in the US, you are naive.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novichok

https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/3...rvation-europe

As if the Russian government was the only government to assassinate their rivals. Ever hear of Lincoln, Patton, JFK, or the Clintons?

[Joe_K]

I understand a lot of side gigs, but there is a lot better jobs you could do other than whoring out for a Russian troll farm.

And if you're not being paid for pushing the Kremlin propaganda, you really should be.

Lots of different opinions in the world, yours is one of a tiny minority in this country that would pass the KGB's intelligence apparatus with a stamp of approval.

PS: You might want to throw away the polaroid photos you took a few decades back, they'll be incriminating someday.

What did I write that is untrue? It is easy to say it is propaganda without providing proof that they are lies, (not all propaganda is untrue). To insinuate that I am a traitor to my Nation for refusing to promote or go along with a majority opinion that I know is wrong should be beneath you. P.S. What Polaroid photos are you talking about?

[BushMasterBoy]

I was gonna say something, but somebody beat me to it...

[BushMasterBoy]

Putin is a psychopath holed up in a billion dollar palace on the Black Sea. The official US stance is that if nuclear weapons are used, the US response will be catastrophic. I hope the ex KBG agent isn't considering using nuclear weapons. If a US city is attacked, you can kiss Moscow goodbye.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putin%27s_Palace

[eddiememphis]

Putin is a psychopath holed up in a billion dollar palace on the Black Sea. The official US stance is that if nuclear weapons are used, the US response will be catastrophic. I hope the ex KBG agent isn't considering using nuclear weapons. If a US city is attacked, you can kiss Moscow goodbye.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putin%27s_Palace

That would likely prove catastrophic for everyone.

There are assumed to be enough Putin loyalists that there is a very good chance of a Russian retaliatory strike and then we would have a global thermonuclear war.

Colorado Springs is a prime target but they have enough warheads to destroy every U.S. city with several nukes each.

There are 317 U.S. cities over 100K. The Russians have 6300 warheads. Not all would be shot at us, Russians have had many enemies over the years and they have long memories.

Regardless, if the hippies think climate change is bad now, wait until 6000 bombs go off- each one burning around 100 million degrees.

[FoxtArt]

Not disagreeing with you, just correcting a slight point... the Russians *say* they have 6,300 nukes. Which would require consistent, extensive annual maintenance and costs to maintain... Nukes are not like conventional bombs that can sit in a warehouse for decades.

Point being, we don't know how many functioning nukes they have, but it's some small fraction of that. Still enough to cause impressive damage. If they haven't been maintaining everything else, it's not like their excessive inventory of nukes have had special treatment, especially since their intention is not to be used in the first place, but just to "exist" as a deterrent. And then there's all the Vlads injecting corruption into the mix.

If the world starts to end, I want to start a pool on how many viable nukes they have. I say... no more than 500.

[eddiememphis]

Not disagreeing with you, just correcting a slight point... the Russians *say* they have 6,300 nukes. Which would require consistent, extensive annual maintenance and costs to maintain... Nukes are not like conventional bombs that can sit in a warehouse for decades.

Point being, we don't know how many functioning nukes they have, but it's some small fraction of that. Still enough to cause impressive damage. If they haven't been maintaining everything else, it's not like their excessive inventory of nukes have had special treatment, especially since their intention is not to be used in the first place, but just to "exist" as a deterrent. And then there's all the Vlads injecting corruption into the mix.

If the world starts to end, I want to start a pool on how many viable nukes they have. I say... no more than 500.

Maybe.

I would bet they spend more on maintaining them than they do on AKs. One tends to take better care of your top of the line equipment than pedestrian items.

[Gman]

Not disagreeing with you, just correcting a slight point... the Russians *say* they have 6,300 nukes. Which would require consistent, extensive annual maintenance and costs to maintain... Nukes are not like conventional bombs that can sit in a warehouse for decades.

Point being, we don't know how many functioning nukes they have, but it's some small fraction of that. Still enough to cause impressive damage. If they haven't been maintaining everything else, it's not like their excessive inventory of nukes have had special treatment, especially since their intention is not to be used in the first place, but just to "exist" as a deterrent. And then there's all the Vlads injecting corruption into the mix.

If the world starts to end, I want to start a pool on how many viable nukes they have. I say... no more than 500.

This. Russia hasn't maintained much of what they have. Their conventional weapons are largely in disrepair due to neglect and poor maintenance.