Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
The other thing I'll throw into this is that we signed a treaty to protect Ukraine in exchange for them giving up their Soviet nukes. If Russia knew they could be glowing in the dark by going after Ukraine, they wouldn't have pulled the crap that they have.

In hindsight, Ukraine is probably figuring out they should have never done that, because they've taken significant losses and our assistance has been half-assed with previous Russian incursions allowed to happen without consequence. The message we sent with that ham-handed cluster was that in any future negotiation with any similar country, there's no way they'd take the same deal.
That was the only reason I was somewhat in favor of joining the fight, because we needed to show the US stands behind our promises. However, Obama shot that to hell years ago, and now Biden's just finishing it up. At this point, I'd rather stay out of it entirely.