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    Default History of gasoline prices

    Interesting article regarding absolute and inflation adjusted gas prices for the last 85 years...

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    Consumers may find themselves less directly affected by the price of a barrel of oil as hybrid and electric vehicles become more commonplace, public transit grows less gas-reliant, and the cost of switching to alternative energy sources at home comes down.
    Hahahahahaha.
    Hahaha
    Ha

    We're LESS directly affected by petroleum prices today than we were in 1936???? Literally EVERYTHING we buy is reliant on oil today. Everything.
    And that wasn't as much the case decades ago.

    If it wasn't made using oil (which so many products are) then it was delivered to your local store using an oil product, in transportation that required oil to manufacture.

    We are not less affected by oil just because a tiny percentage of people drive passengers EVs or have solar panels on their homes (although I'm not sure what alternative energy source they are suggesting allows us to move the electrical demand in our homes away from oil other than heating oil, which isn't all that common in much of the country)

    How many electric trucks are delivering goods from factory to consumer? Zero. How many electric trains are delivering goods all the way from factory to consumer? Zero. Electric planes? Zero.

    Hell, even passenger EVs some may use to get to the store to buy goods delivered there via oil powered transportation, require oil to make most of the parts in them. If oil prices go up, so do the cost of our EVs. The cost of switching to alternative energy sources for your home is still around a 25 year payoff. Want to heat your home with solar generated electric heat instead of oil? You're agreeing to pay for 25 years of heat up front. Not affected by oil....ha.

    Damn near every item we all have in our homes wouldn't be there without oil. We wouldn't even have homes without oil as there'd be no lumber to build them. Even the water that comes out of our sink comes through pipes that were made with oil. They think oil prices don't affect those much anymore? They're blind.

    When oil prices increase, the price of everything else increases too. We're absolutely directly affected by oil prices as much today as we ever have been.

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    Cheap energy is what fuels American excellence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post

    How many electric trucks are delivering goods from factory to consumer? Zero.
    https://electriclastmile.com/

    https://nikolamotor.com/motor

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    Inquire now? Where's the dealer? Seems like an investment opportunity but not on the road doing deliveries... other than Polis' desire to put them on the road where are they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedave1164 View Post
    Cheap energy is what fuels American excellence.

    Three major things the commies need to control:

    Food

    Medicine

    Energy
    the central part of Washington had 2.7 cents a kw electricity. State free health care but only if you're broke. And I hear they grow apples.

    There's little industry there and politicians squabble and jacked up the electric rates over the past 5 years because they could.

    Your post checked out sir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thedave1164 View Post
    Cheap energy is what fuels American excellence.

    Three major things the commies need to control:

    Food

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    And a fourth thing: Education. Without that, they can't be sure they'll have a "next generation" of good commies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidicarus13 View Post
    https://electriclastmile.com/

    https://nikolamotor.com/motor

    Just a few I thought of off the top of my head.


    I said from factory to consumer.

    ELMS are last mile delivery vehicles. They aren't transporting goods from the factory. And they're only producing vans at the moment. No trucks.

    Nikola has only delivered 2 test trucks to my knowledge. Both are at ports, sorta like 1st mile trucks. Production models will have max 350 mile range. (I did ride the Nikola motors wave however. Made some decent money when with their stock and got out before their fraud charges).

    Neither of these are capable of handling all material transportation, factory to consumer. All goods are still moved by petroleum powered vehicles at some point. And both of these are so insignificant in scope, they will not reduce material transportation costs for a very long time to come.

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    Don't have to look too hard. And I'm not even an EV fan. You're being untruthful to try to prove your point.Click image for larger version. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    And a fourth thing: Education. Without that, they can't be sure they'll have a "next generation" of good commies.
    5th abolish the 2nd. By crook, or arbitrary rulings by the feds

    6th shutter any and all opposition voices. Which they're doing a decent job at

    7th SCOTUS. Which we might see. Depending what happens with Thomas.
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