Why Does Interpol Need Immunity from American Law?

[SA Friday]

I find it interesting that you equate our founding father's inability to envision repeating firearms as an unintended consequence of the 2nd Amendment SA Friday. Care to elaborate what you mean?

Actually, if you go back and read it, I don't unless I'm considered in the Anti-gun camp...

[SA Friday]

OK, what do I have to do to make everyone understand my previous post concerning the anti's saying all the time that our founding fathers could have never invisioned repeating firearms in this context is a METAPHOR. The Anti's say this all the time, and it's BS. That's the metaphor here.


The Denver inpoundment provision isn't really a good example. Almost anyone could see the potental for abuse with that piece of garbage.
What's the foreseeable threat with the Interpol EO? Giving foreigners Dip immunity? Dude, there are 100's currently running around in the Denver area and up in the shi resorts daily with that already. There are probably well over 10k in the USA with Dip immunity on any given day. We have about the same around the world with the same immunity in foreign countries. It's the price to have govt relationships. It there was no Dip Immunity, there would be a lot of countries with no US relations at all and vice versa.

[mutt]

Actually, if you go back and read it, I don't unless I'm considered in the Anti-gun camp...

ok, I gotcha. Guess I need to learn to read better =)
No doubt you're pro-gun. I was just thinking you had some interesting view of the 2A and the evolution of firearms.

[Marlin]

In particular, it explains as follows:
Contrary to its portrayal in some movies, Interpol has no police force that conducts investigations and makes arrests. Rather, it serves its 188 member countries by working as a clearinghouse for police departments in different nations to share law enforcement information — like files on wanted criminals and terrorists, stolen cars and passports, and notices that a law enforcement agency has issued an arrest warrant for a fugitive.

It's more than just the standard diplomat getting immunity here. This is a foreign law enforcement agency that now has NO requirement to provide any of their data collected on U.S. citizens to anyone in the U.S. No recourse for Congress to supeona the data, etc. It's powers beyond what our own LE agencies are allowed.

It's dirty and bodes of lots of really bad things happening. Something smells really rotten here.

I'm beginning to think that the only reason He did the EO was to get some of you to put the tinfoil on tighter...


Interpol IS NOT a law enforcement agency, all they do is SHARE information.. They have been doing it for years..

As to "why" they need the protection of an EO,, that I do not know.. As long as you do not commit a crime and beat feet to Lativia or some such, Chances are,They will never know you exist..

[SA Friday]

It's more than just the standard diplomat getting immunity here. This is a foreign law enforcement agency that now has NO requirement to provide any of their data collected on U.S. citizens to anyone in the U.S. No recourse for Congress to supeona the data, etc. It's powers beyond what our own LE agencies are allowed.

It's dirty and bodes of lots of really bad things happening. Something smells really rotten here.

That's what half of the standard diplomats are doing... The 'diplomats' just are not collecting info on US citizens unless they are interesting US citizens. They are too busy collecting information from companies making controlled technologies.

I had the opportunity at one of my secret squirrel training classes to do a Q&A session with an ex-KGB agent that defected to the USA. He was very honest about what he did, what he collected, his tactics and techniques... They don't have to steal the stuff from us. They just have to sit and wait for someone with access to come sell it to them.

What info does Interpol collect on US citizens independent of what is given to them by the DOJ? They don't have any investigation/collections arm.

I'm not defending the EO here, I'm just trying to understand the danger involved. There seems to be some misconceptions about what Interpol's mission and capabilities are from all of us, me included until I asked some questions to a friend that works with them regularly. I can see Interpol being infiltrated by a foreign govt to use as a channel to smuggle out info gathered via espionage, but why would they go through the trouble? There are easier ways in place already.

[Irving]

Explaining that this decision doesn't effect anything does not placate me though. If this decision does not change anything, then why was it done? People are worried about what kind of doors this has potentially opened.