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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    No. The speed of light is a defined limit in your locality. You can have a velocity > c relative to a receding reference frame (e.g, 2 points in space-time each traveling 0.75c in their own reference frames will have a relative velocity of 1.5c * cos (angle between their respective velocity vectors) but there is nothing in known physics that allows anything to travel faster than light in the local reference frame. That doesn't mean it's impossible but it does mean it requires new physics.
    Once again, even our understanding of physics permit the apparent violation of C it exclusively when you are dealing with spacetime compression/expansion. The early universe inflated well in excess of C in relation to a fixed reference point. So in other words, if we imagine two fixed, imaginary objects in the early universe, they were spreading apart faster than even C - often by large margins. But, all the while, they were not breaking light speed. It is important to understand that the distances between objects can be changed/dilated/expanded in spacetime which does not run afoul of the constant itself. It is akin to saying we can get from NYC to India in six hours. Not by incredible speed, but instead by shortening the distance by going through the earth. Likewise if the earth is inflating, the distances between us and India increase. If the earth inflates fast enough, that distance increases faster than light speed, but neither India or NYC has moved. This is also how something can make impossible movements (right angle turns for instance) without destructing. If you aren't moving through spacetime, but instead moving spacetime, your movement is minimal while your apparent movement is substantial.

    These physics are well understood by scientists on earth. And there is some progress towards the theoretical warp bubbles here (spacetime manipulation like I described), they are just, so far, on a microscopic level. So we do understand it, it is not currently possible for us purely from a technological perspective. If we don't wipe ourselves out, there is a 99% chance it will be, someday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxtArt View Post
    Once again, even our understanding of physics permit the apparent violation of C it exclusively when you are dealing with spacetime compression/expansion. The early universe inflated well in excess of C in relation to a fixed reference point. So in other words, if we imagine two fixed, imaginary objects in the early universe, they were spreading apart faster than even C - often by large margins. But, all the while, they were not breaking light speed. It is important to understand that the distances between objects can be changed/dilated/expanded in spacetime which does not run afoul of the constant itself. It is akin to saying we can get from NYC to India in six hours. Not by incredible speed, but instead by shortening the distance by going through the earth. Likewise if the earth is inflating, the distances between us and India increase. If the earth inflates fast enough, that distance increases faster than light speed, but neither India or NYC has moved. This is also how something can make impossible movements (right angle turns for instance) without destructing. If you aren't moving through spacetime, but instead moving spacetime, your movement is minimal while your apparent movement is substantial.

    These physics are well understood by scientists on earth. And there is some progress towards the theoretical warp bubbles here (spacetime manipulation like I described), they are just, so far, on a microscopic level. So we do understand it, it is not currently possible for us purely from a technological perspective. If we don't wipe ourselves out, there is a 99% chance it will be, someday.
    What you're describing is what I said about different reference frames but there is no known physics that allows you to travel faster than light in the local reference frame. It violates the General Theory of Relativity which has survived more experiments than just any theory in the history of physics.

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    No Sasquatch references yet?

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    It might be a really good investment to buy a information platform to gather business intelligence and influence people to a positive outcome. Having a social media platform, a space based internet provider, electric transportation company and a space launch platform could be really good for his bottom line.

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    WTF does this have to do with Elon and Twitter again?

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    WTF does this have to do with Elon and Twitter again?
    Elon to spaceX to long distance space travel to speed limitations to physics discussion.

    Pretty conventional sidetrack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 00tec View Post
    WTF does this have to do with Elon and Twitter again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 00tec View Post
    WTF does this have to do with Elon and Twitter again?
    Twitter is a big rabbit hole

    Just proved by this trip chasing the rabbit

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    He should buy Facebook too and clean THAT shithole up.
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