New tax for Colorado!

[bczandm]

I love TABOR, it passed for this very reason. The problem I see with this is that it really favors the big guys. Amazon and the other large retailers can automate this and they are done. For us small guys it's going to be a royal pain in the ass and costly to figure. It's an entirely new process and procedure that we will have in place. Small companies will need to charge it appropriately on each invoice. I suspect if you charge customers that don't apply you will be fined, if you don't charge it where it should be charged you will be fined. Additionally there is a new tax form that will need to be filed quarterly. Lots of work and lots of expense for us smaller shops. Our company will collect about $30 a year and it will cost us hundreds or thousands to manage this.

[eddiememphis]

Has there been any lawsuits brought or court rulings on these TABOR run-arounds?

The firearms and ammo companies are on the radar too... they will eventually legislate away your ability to buy ammo or gun parts online.

Yes, lawsuits have been filed. 2014 against RTD fees and 2015 against bridge fees. Both went in favor of the taxing authority.


Mail order firearms, parts and ammo will go away. Small shops will close. Large retailers may choose not to have much inventory, then halt sales due to poor numbers.

It will be a combination of things. There will be fees attached like a hazmat charge for shipping and storage of dangerous items. Onerous rules regarding safe storage of items and severe penalties for violations.

Insurance companies will raise rates or refuse coverage of firearms manufacturers, distributors and retailers, including home coverage if one holds an FFL.

Lenders will not finance anything gun related. Credit card companies will cancel transactions by individuals purchasing anything firearm related.

Lawsuits against distributors and retailers, including FFL's handling transfers, anytime a gun is used in a crime.

Those are just the easy ones off the top of my head, some of which are already in action.

[Erni]

Interesting. I know a lot of guys who are already really struggling. First supply, then gasoline. Now this. As I read the list of businesses this will impact, especially restaurants and grocery stores, I began to wonder about the increase in this "service" in response to the Chinese Bat Flu. I wonder if this is now part of "the new normal."

This state is really starting to disgust me.

This feels almost like it was sponsored by Amazon?

[brutal]

Yes, lawsuits have been filed. 2014 against RTD fees and 2015 against bridge fees. Both went in favor of the taxing authority.


Mail order firearms, parts and ammo will go away. Small shops will close. Large retailers may choose not to have much inventory, then halt sales due to poor numbers.

It will be a combination of things. There will be fees attached like a hazmat charge for shipping and storage of dangerous items. Onerous rules regarding safe storage of items and severe penalties for violations.

Insurance companies will raise rates or refuse coverage of firearms manufacturers, distributors and retailers, including home coverage if one holds an FFL.

Lenders will not finance anything gun related. Credit card companies will cancel transactions by individuals purchasing anything firearm related.

Lawsuits against distributors and retailers, including FFL's handling transfers, anytime a gun is used in a crime.

Those are just the easy ones off the top of my head, some of which are already in action.

Death by a thousand cuts.

They're going to pull the same type shenanigan's to run most everyone into urban centers and kill rural living through the forced move away from fossil fuels.

[Bailey Guns]

This state is really starting to disgust me.

Seriously? Just now?

[JohnnyDrama]

Seriously? Just now?

I've been a resident of Colorado since 1979. It's been a few years coming. I've lived in relatively conservative areas that have been able to ignore a lot of what has happened in the last twenty years. This is the first time I have admitted the aggressively anti-business/progressive trajectory the state is on is turning me off. I have some obligations that will keep me around for a few more years. Utah or Texas are looking really good. Hickenlooper and Polis have really increased the pace in our race to the bottom.

[DDT951]

TABOR has been gutted by "fees"

That was the intention with the court ruling...

[colorider]

Maybe they will use the money to fix our pathetic roads. HA! I’m not collecting this dumbass fee.

[Oscar77]

Yes, lawsuits have been filed. 2014 against RTD fees and 2015 against bridge fees. Both went in favor of the taxing authority.


Mail order firearms, parts and ammo will go away. Small shops will close. Large retailers may choose not to have much inventory, then halt sales due to poor numbers.

It will be a combination of things. There will be fees attached like a hazmat charge for shipping and storage of dangerous items. Onerous rules regarding safe storage of items and severe penalties for violations.

Insurance companies will raise rates or refuse coverage of firearms manufacturers, distributors and retailers, including home coverage if one holds an FFL.

Lenders will not finance anything gun related. Credit card companies will cancel transactions by individuals purchasing anything firearm related.

Lawsuits against distributors and retailers, including FFL's handling transfers, anytime a gun is used in a crime.

Those are just the easy ones off the top of my head, some of which are already in action.

I agree that this is a "Tax but we wont call it a tax TABOR run around".........But how it hurts the economy/small business is they adjusted to "Covid" and now the delivery services are ripping along.
Well now they will get taxed for it.
Ironically it'll push back to "in person" sales.
(Well for people like me, who don't use bags in Denver out of principle. Others won't care and don't understand the principle here. )
It has nothing to do with guns, I mean I don't get guns delivered by my LGS to my house.
If they want to go after guns, they are more than comfortable going after them directly, like the resurgence of the various local bans.

PS:
I'll be curious to see if more restaurants etc move away from these delivery sales......... "Grub Hub" and companies like that take a cut, the delivery people take a cut, now a tax and the resulting paperwork will cost money...........
At what point is it not worth it?
COVID is forgotten..... go back to in person sales.

[Circuits]