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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delfuego View Post
    Can you still only view the forum with a user account? If so that may force people away that are looking for quick shooting advice. Also SEO might be working against us if we don't allow the google monster to crawl the site.
    It's hard to come to a site when you know you have to login, before you can even view the site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    Yesterday I spoke with someone we all know who asked not to be named. He asked how the site was going and I expressed my concern over the lower activity, especially within the firearms discussions.

    I'll be honest, I'm at a loss on how to improve the site or even bring it back to what it was a few years ago. Maybe it's just the times we're in and interest in this type of site just isn't what it used to be; I dunno.

    We have no shortage on spammers coming to the site, but for every 30 new legit accounts we get maybe one of those members will actively participate. Along the way we continue to see many of our long-time active members just casually walk away.

    I used to come onto the site every day and look forward to all of the fascinating conversations about general stuff as well as firearms-specific stuff from all of our members. Now I come to the site hoping that one conversation will be exciting and interesting, perhaps even informative.

    What are we missing? What have we lost along the way that used to bring folks here to join in on the conversations or start their own topics? I'm truly interested in hearing everyone's thoughts on this subject.
    I still see a lot of long time members posting here, while as you indicate, others have gone.

    The missing members that I have spoken to, talk about the over reach of moderators, and that it is just not worth it anymore.

    We have been lucky to have some really special members over the years, but lately, we don't get new, quality members, so the members that are here, have to generate talk, and at some point, they can't talk any more.

    We need quality new blood, to supplant the old time members (most of which are still here, just not talking), to continue the forum as a resource, to Colorado AR15 owners.

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    Not to bash, but I offer this because you asked.

    I never participated much, but I stepped back after two things around the beginning of the pandemic.

    1. Someone got their ass handed to them for gouging ammo, yet a few days later that asking price was cheaper than the going rate. I felt like I had to ask what price I was allowed to sell my leftover ammo (and I did ask just that).

    2. I got a ton of good information in the pandemic information thread early on when the first lockdowns were imminent. Then someone decided that only the pro-vax, pro-mask viewpoint was allowed. Plenty of opinions on both sides, but it?s bad form IMO on a site celebrating 2A freedom to be such a dictatorship on opposing views.

    You also asked for suggestions. Find a way to upgrade the software with a like button. Sometimes I agree with a post or appreciate a picture, but I don?t have anything else to add. Even being able to react to a post encourages those people who do post.

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    IMO. The state of CO is what's changed. Every time i log in, seeing another "common sense" gun law, proposed. OR tax / fee, with more crap heading CO state's way. Outside the friends we left behind. It looks like CO is going to surpass CA as one of the top gun restrictive states. That alone would be enough to keep me, as a still local member, from posting much, if anything. Just a quick stop in the L&P forum is enough to depress anyone.

    Regarding another post about pro vax, pro mask. I didn't get see that position taken, where being unvaxed, unmasked wasn't cause for attacks, or unable to post.

    As for the trading post forums. EH.. keep it 30 days, with at least a few participating post, replies, etc.

    One more reason for less activity is . A lot of members are self employed, small business folks. With the lack of people wanting to work, a much larger work load , with fewer people requires less on line time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frac View Post
    Not to bash, but I offer this because you asked.


    2. I got a ton of good information in the pandemic information thread early on when the first lockdowns were imminent. Then someone decided that only the pro-vax, pro-mask viewpoint was allowed. Plenty of opinions on both sides, but it?s bad form IMO on a site celebrating 2A freedom to be such a dictatorship on opposing views.
    Quote Originally Posted by arbol View Post
    The missing members that I have spoken to, talk about the over reach of moderators, and that it is just not worth it anymore.

    This and this

    Had a short conversation about this matter when at a friend's house the other day. I was surprised that he even logged in, to be honest
    Last edited by 00tec; 06-13-2022 at 08:31.

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    When this thread first cropped up I briefly debated on finding a nice way to say that I now do 95% of my "Trading Post" activity on the local MeWe threads instead of here, but let it go figuring it wouldn't be well received. A place to buy and sell locally was the initial appeal, for me, to a local-focused forum. But watching people get stomped for posting at current prices during the covid scare was enough to convince to start posting elsewhere. I have no problem with a waiting period and minimum thread count to be able to use the trading post, I do think that model makes sense so you have at least a minimal trust the person you are dealing with isn't insane, a scammer, etc. It also forces a seller to actually be invested enough in the group to follow-through after posting a sale rather than forgetting where all they even posted it.

    I've been posting with firearm related questions, mostly just to create some activity, but I'm not all that interesting. I don't have a lot of questions that can't be answered with a single reply from someone in the know. With the current cancel culture I don't post stories or pictures where I may be identified by a rando looking for a target. Not wanting to do that makes any story-telling posts I might consider lifeless and uninteresting, and I usually just delete the thread before hitting the submit button.

    Edit to add - I do hit the "What's New" a dozen or so times a day still to see what other people are doing though. I enjoy reading what others have to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beast556 View Post
    Lots of members have moved out of colorado. Unfortunately colorado has politically been solidly taken over by democrats with a bunch of them being commie leftists. If the sale on my house wouldn't of fell through I would be gone as well, once my youngest graduates high school we will be out of here if we can hold out that long.

    Don't you dare. I'm slowly running out of level-headed colleagues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    Before Colorado implemented mandatory FFL transfers of private party sales, this forum was easily 10X more active.
    Accurate. Hell, most of us became friends through those transactions and similar like-mindedness.

    I fondly recall the good old days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidicarus13 View Post
    Building personal relations through many face-to-face transactions and unaffiliated events has kept me coming back to COAR to discuss firearms, local/regional/national topics, and to share information. I tend to visit other national forums for the expert firearm opinions and product reviews. Although there are some very knowledgeable members on COAR, it's hard to compete with national forums with hundreds of thousands or millions of members.

    My $.02
    Agree 100%. I've made so many good friends and learned so much about the hobby through contacts made from the Trading Post, and we've all helped each other a great deal.

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    Long time lurker here.

    I think forums as a whole have been killed off by SEO. The only way to get search results from real people is including the name of the forums in the search. If you do not know the forum, your shit out of luck.

    A year or two ago I wanted to buy my first fishing pole since I was 12. All I could find were regurgitations of specs seemingly written by someone who has never fished a day in their life. It was just articles linking to Amazon.

    I don't there is any tech or .gov conspiracy here. The Internet grew up and it is just a way to push products.

    That or dead Internet theory is true and y'all are just bots.
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